Internext/AEE passes anyone :) - AVN SUCKS!!!!!

[RawAlex]

Far-L, it isn't about "why" things are expensive, we can all figure it out. I can understand almost down to the smallest item WHY we are paying insane rates for hotels... It just sorta sucks to be put into that position.

Alex

[Linkster]

Although I can see the overall reasons for combining the two shows - it blows me away that they would pickthe same time as CES to hold the shows - more importantly - while there are a few benefits to a few of the companies that might want to exhibit at both shows (Far-L Im sure you are one that loves that arrangement), it is a fact that the WMs that would really like to go to the show - it has become price prohibitive for the "amateur WMs" which is what Internext is supposed to be all about??
It is also a fact that the prices in the past for hotel rooms at the Venetian - the days of Internext were always pretty reasonable - the day that AEE started the prices jumped by at least $100 a day - so it is not CES that is calling the shots - it is the tradition of higher prices paid (at least for the 4 times Ive been to Vegas) once AEE starts.

Second rant - if you are going to pick a hotel - fine - but stick with parties at the hotel - dont make everyone go to last years hotel for the big party - it doesnt make sense - the Venetian has plenty of venues and again, you arent trying to find a cab (cause AVN sure isnt gonna spring for limo busses if you could even get them during CES) and hoofing it all over the strip.

[Linkster]

I was gonna edit but figured since its a separate issue - you will also find that if you go to the AEE page - you can buy your tickets at a discount for an extra 10 days - till the 12th of Dec - vice going to the Internext page where its Dec 2 for the cutoff - not sure why there would be a difference?

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Linkster

Although I can see the overall reasons for combining the two shows - it blows me away that they would pickthe same time as CES to hold the shows - more importantly - while there are a few benefits to a few of the companies that might want to exhibit at both shows (Far-L Im sure you are one that loves that arrangement), it is a fact that the WMs that would really like to go to the show - it has become price prohibitive for the "amateur WMs" which is what Internext is supposed to be all about??
It is also a fact that the prices in the past for hotel rooms at the Venetian - the days of Internext were always pretty reasonable - the day that AEE started the prices jumped by at least $100 a day - so it is not CES that is calling the shots - it is the tradition of higher prices paid (at least for the 4 times Ive been to Vegas) once AEE starts.

Second rant - if you are going to pick a hotel - fine - but stick with parties at the hotel - dont make everyone go to last years hotel for the big party - it doesnt make sense - the Venetian has plenty of venues and again, you arent trying to find a cab (cause AVN sure isnt gonna spring for limo busses if you could even get them during CES) and hoofing it all over the strip.

I am not a fan of the two shows at the same time thing as you would probably assume. We haven't done a booth at the Expo for years - just banners, though this year we are going for kiosks and banners. We haven't been big fans of doing booths at shows for quite a while but we still do one at Internext for a variety of reasons... the bottom line is that it has been good for biz in spite of the pain in the ass and expense goes into it.

We are completely fed up with Venetian and have been staying elsewhere now for better prices (bellagio, and this year we have the "rainman" suite in Caesars - I think the walk to the sands will be better than walking from the rooms at venetian to tell you the truth).

All the hotel's pricing actually jump like that for the CES trust me because I have been doing these shows since the adult expo was still part of CES.

Another thing to consider - We just can't go anywhere with this show because not everyone will welcome a bunch of dirty filthy evil vile pornographers anywhere. Due to past behaviour elsewhere certain places have banned us forever.

My feeling is they really try to do the best with what they have and deserve some slack for that reason.

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Another thing to consider - We just can't go anywhere with this show because not everyone will welcome a bunch of dirty filthy evil vile pornographers anywhere. Due to past behaviour elsewhere certain places have banned us forever.

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I totally understand that - and actually I have never had a problem paying Venetians prices in the past - and of course paid them again this time - of course at a real reduced rate due to getting the reservations in 6 months ago - but I guess I have to step back and think about all of the people this has harmed - I know many "medium level" webmasters - the general population of people that do this for a living - not a hobby - but have not grown to the level of pulling in a great income - they are still building and have been around 3 years or so - these webmasters (and I have to keep using that term since to me Internext is about webmasters ONLY - and all the programs etc that revolve around that industry) cannot attend their premier industry event because the people that run the event cant figure out how to schedule it a week later - in the same place - or for that matter - wrangle out a new contract because they won't - not because they can't.
Like I said in an earlier post - they are driving away 90% of the population that they are trying to reach - and they have been told about it for two years now. I guess it's just a matter of time (or something a little more drastic) before this whole event goes away.