What Makes A Paysite Go Choke?

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Alex said it perfectly.

Who has closed due to 2257 issues? I hope no respectable U.S based companies - that has been around longer than Joan Rivers... everyone in the states should have been prepared for it to some degree... yes, the changes made it even harder to deal with but that is why multiple groups are challenging it.

[DJilla]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Who has closed due to 2257 issues? I hope no respectable U.S based companies - that has been around longer than Joan Rivers... everyone in the states should have been prepared for it to some degree... yes, the changes made it even harder to deal with but that is why multiple groups are challenging it.

Without going into a list here, I can't tell you the agravation and time I've spent rearranging my pages and links over the last few months. No doubt most of them are 2257 related, but over the last year personally I've also noticed more than a handful just go "poof" and from all the reasons listed here my feeling on the most common reason (besides business practices) and this is just a feeling, it seems to be related to the WM just not being able to weather:

a) not making a gazillion dollars like he/she thought they would... quick and giving up and

b) great at the technical but can't keep producing enough content or can provide content but no clue about the technical.

"Homegrown" is actually kind of a model for me to study. You have had great staying power. Not overly slick, super niche, constant content and a connection with surfers.

Finally, one of the things I like about this business that I think chews people to pieces is that it is just plain "competitive" to the level of a nightmare

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Who has closed due to 2257 issues? I hope no respectable U.S based companies - that has been around longer than Joan Rivers... everyone in the states should have been prepared for it to some degree... yes, the changes made it even harder to deal with but that is why multiple groups are challenging it.

Many of the major programs dropped sites due to 2257. Most of the time it seemed to have to do with the model records not being acceptable (wrong document for a foreign model) or the source for the images used in the site was unable or unwilling to provide the documents required (some because they were lying sacks of shit, and others because privacy laws in their country do not permit the sharing of that information without signed permission from the model).

Out of about 500 paysites listed on findpics, I think I had to pull between 30 and 50 of them during the 2257 situation. Many programs did it very quietly, just having the sites redirect without any real notification. You wouldn't even know it unless you were checking links. I still find them now and then, on older pages with direct links I didn't remember.

Considering you are in the "amateur" market, you should know that many amateur sites were shut down because models didn't want to take the chance of having their home address put on their websites. While many found solutions to get around this requirement, others just through up their hands and left the business or became cam girls to avoid the hassle of running their own sites with that level of exposure. You can find older amateur sites that are now nothing more than doorways to personal live chat pages...

For 2005, the major part of paysites I have seen shut down have been related to 2257.

Alex

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Many of the major programs dropped sites due to 2257. Most of the time it seemed to have to do with the model records not being acceptable (wrong document for a foreign model) or the source for the images used in the site was unable or unwilling to provide the documents required (some because they were lying sacks of shit, and others because privacy laws in their country do not permit the sharing of that information without signed permission from the model).

Out of about 500 paysites listed on findpics, I think I had to pull between 30 and 50 of them during the 2257 situation. Many programs did it very quietly, just having the sites redirect without any real notification. You wouldn't even know it unless you were checking links. I still find them now and then, on older pages with direct links I didn't remember.

Considering you are in the "amateur" market, you should know that many amateur sites were shut down because models didn't want to take the chance of having their home address put on their websites. While many found solutions to get around this requirement, others just through up their hands and left the business or became cam girls to avoid the hassle of running their own sites with that level of exposure. You can find older amateur sites that are now nothing more than doorways to personal live chat pages...

For 2005, the major part of paysites I have seen shut down have been related to 2257.

Alex

Yep I knew about the solo girl sites/true amateurs with relation to not wanting to put home addresses out for all to see but I am curious what big corporate amateur sites had fallen to the wayside... I guess it makes sense that no one wants to name names but I just think it is odd that they weren't being more careful to begin with.