AVN Wants Me On The Traffic Panel In Vegas....Even Though They Have No Idea Who I Am.

MikeHawk · 2005-11-11, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenguy

Part of my anger about this is that I did this panel in 2004 (pretty sure it was 2004 - seminars were downstairs) so I might be acting like I have a big head when I say I'm a bit offended that the person putting this panel together has no idea who I am.

The person that's putting this together doesn't know who Joe Blow Webmaster is nor what they are all about.

Would you be offended if AVN went to Person A about an amateur seminar. Person A recommended Person B for the seminar. When Person B was asked if they knew of anyone else that would be good for the panel, they said "Far-L from Homegrown" & AVN's reply was basically "Who?"

1 - The person at AVN running this panel has no idea who I am (maybe they do now, but they didn't 24 hours ago)
2 - It was not the responsibility of this board to promote an event in Miami that was not being given by our sponsors. That is the policy of this board & you sent me a PM telling me that the policy of this board basically stinks & that we do not know how to do business. This board is not like all the other "popular" boards & we do not put up with spam from people that are not advertisers of the board OR a member in very good standing. I'm truly sorry that you do not like our rules, but if you post here, you have to abide by them. If you don't like the rules, then you have to learn to live with what happens to threads that are posted in the incorrect forum.

I've never claimed to take anything from AVN, but you have to admit, they will be taking $80 from each person that buys a pass from the seminars in exchange for a wealth of information from panelists that receive free passes.

AVN did an article on me in 2003 & they only got 5 of the 8 facts/questions wrong. At least they printed my hate mail full of corrections in the next issue. I don't think there was that big of a write up about the panel I was on in 2004.

I certainly am!

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This is for everyone:

This isn't about the money - I don't care about it nor need it. It's the principal that AVN gives experts a free pass that costs them NOTHING so that they can be on a panel & give into to webmasters that have paid $80 (total, not per seminar) to hear them. I am a whore at heart, but I don't need to whore myself out to AVN so that my site gets more submits or the board gets more posts.

Speaking of the seminars - as of today, there are none scheduled:
http://www.internext-expo.com/semina...riptions.shtml

If you want to be come a panelist, you have to fill out this form:
http://www.internext-expo.com/semina...me_speaker.php

On there, it says the following:

...2) Confirmation emails will be sent out in writing at least 1 month prior to the show detailing your acceptance, your assigned seminar day and time, contact information for the seminar program manager (pre-show, on-site and post-show) and a brief Speaker Release Agreement requiring your signature...

That means that they could very well not finalize things until Dec 5th. I know, that's the worst case scenario, but when you throw in there that Joe Blow Webmasters might be on the fence about the seminars, he'd have to decide by Dec 2nd if he wanted to get the discounted pass ($25 more after Dec 2nd) for a list that may not be published until Dec 5th

I find it really strange that there is this potential for failure & that tentative list of seminars is not posted yet to at least let Joe Blow have an idea of what they are getting for their extra $80.

And yes, my ego is a bit bruised that I was not "known" or even remembered by AVN about the panel. And I've only touched on it briefly, but my ego is also hurt that I was 5th on a list of 4 people for some sponsor stats segment that will be coming out in AVN (I was only offered it when one of the four backed out) And it's not that I think I invented the stats thing - Netpond & The Statistician did. But I have been publishing them since Jan 2002 (oddly enough, all of my 2002 stats are still on thestatistician.com) & I like to think that I know what the fuck I'm doing with them.

But that brings us back to the whole "AVN Has No Idea Who Any Of Us Are" problem.

PS - Hi Becky!!!

"no idea who I am"

Now you and i both know that is a joke, may i remind you of an email and attempt on my part to reach you months ago regarding something new that AVN was and is going to do in there Mag and roll it out at the show. I asked you at that time if you would do this, and you said no.

Its to bad....oh well.

Oh and posting on your board, i follow rules, and i do respect. I also speak up when there is something on my mind, that is something i will always do.

Hey if you change your mind, contact me directly if you want to discuss this, I think some of it might surprise you.

Greenguy · 2005-11-11, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk

"no idea who I am"

Now you and i both know that is a joke, may i remind you of an email and attempt on my part to reach you months ago regarding something new that AVN was and is going to do in there Mag and roll it out at the show. I asked you at that time if you would do this, and you said no...

I would now like to eat a big fucking piece of humble pie, as I am a big fucking not-remembering ass.

I completely forgot that you asked me about doing the stats things with Farley & AVN back in March, which I turned down.

I think I turned it down because it's hard to put webmaster referral codes into a print magazine

Everyone: Please ignore every thing I said about AVN & the stats thing, because I was asked & I turned them down. I am an ass for not remembering this.

I stink

Useless · 2005-11-11, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenguy

I stink

True, but AVN was still foolish to ask you to be on their traffic panel. What do you know about traffic? Have you ever successfully fixed the problem with my neighbors parking in front of my home? No - you haven't. What the hell kind of transportation engineer are you anyway? I intend on writing a strongly worded letter to city planning.

Greenguy · 2005-11-11, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

True, but AVN was still foolish to ask you to be on their traffic panel. What do you know about traffic?...

You could have ended it there & I would not have been offended - I really am a "been in the business so long people think I know something" ass

spookyx · 2005-11-11, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenguy

I stink

maybe... but Jim still has dogs.

MikeHawk · 2005-11-11, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenguy

I would now like to eat a big fucking piece of humble pie, as I am a big fucking not-remembering ass.

I completely forgot that you asked me about doing the stats things with Farley & AVN back in March, which I turned down.

I think I turned it down because it's hard to put webmaster referral codes into a print magazine

Everyone: Please ignore every thing I said about AVN & the stats thing, because I was asked & I turned them down. I am an ass for not remembering this.

I stink

lol.....
Hey had an idea came to AVN with it, i came to you as one of the very best of the biz, and at that time maybe timing was not right, or what ever.

You really had know idea who i was or you still dont...so i dont blame ya, i may have done the same thing, or maybe not.

Greenguy · 2005-11-11, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk

...You really had know idea who i was or you still dont...so i dont blame ya, i may have done the same thing, or maybe not.

I knew that you ran a program (I've been promoting you since June 04) but other than that, I still don't know much about you

MikeHawk · 2005-11-11, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenguy

I knew that you ran a program (I've been promoting you since June 04) but other than that, I still don't know much about you

Thanks for the sales and the great traffic, we have some cool stuff coming up.
All the Dirt on Mike Hawk and Smashbucks.........

xxxjay · 2005-11-11, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenguy

I knew that you ran a program (I've been promoting you since June 04) but other than that, I still don't know much about you

The vintage smashbucks stuff does convert quite well.

MikeHawk · 2005-11-12, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

The vintage smashbucks stuff does convert quite well.

Thanks Jay!

Far-L · 2005-11-11, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk

lol.....
Hey had an idea came to AVN with it, i came to you as one of the very best of the biz, and at that time maybe timing was not right, or what ever.

You really had know idea who i was or you still dont...so i dont blame ya, i may have done the same thing, or maybe not.

Interesting.. we threw a similar idea at them about two years ago.

But, we recommended them using their own traffic to test as well as posting some of the reputable folks comparisons like

and creating something like a "consumer reports" type analysis.

JoeD · 2005-11-11, 06:18 PM

Okay GG, no more LURKING FOR ME

I am not going to go to that seminar if you are not on the panel, so I guess I'm not going

Hammer · 2005-11-11, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

I am not going to go to that seminar if you are not on the panel, so I guess I'm not going

I'm not going if he's not on it either. See, this is how boycotts start. |viking|

View Poll Results: What Should I Do?
Just go to Vegas like I planned on & try to scum a Media Pass.	14	28.57%
Ask AVN for $1000 & 4 free passes.	27	55.10%
Quit whining, do the fucking panel & make an ass of myself in the process.	8	16.33%
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2005-11-11, 06:18 PM	#12
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