Overall Adult Revenues - $ Rising or Falling?

SirMoby · 2005-11-17, 05:18 PM

I think overall revenues are increasing because the number of surfers are increaing and bandwidth these surfers has is going up as well. Also new billing options and more credit cards makes on-line purchases more accessable to the masses.

Profit margins may be going down and there may be fewer new comers making mad money but the total pie is growing every day.

More surfers + deeper market penitration = more $$$$

Bill · 2005-11-17, 07:46 PM

Those are good arguments SirMoby, but I have some uncertainties about them.

I'm not sure more broadband necessarily means more revenue, altho I'm willing to be persuaded.

I've read a few sources, altho I don't have links handy, that suggests that the number of new western surfers (by that I mean US, Ca, UK, Western Europe, and Austrailia) is leveling off dramatically. I'd have to do some searching to find them again, so I may have misunderstood the articles.

Worldwide, some 5 billion people can't participate easily in our billing systems, so non western surfers are just a drain on the servers at this point. When they can charge things on credit cards, I can't see any but the richest of them paying $40 a month for paysite memberships.

If revenues are increasing, why aren't sponsors increasing? This is the question that I'm really thinking about.

There should be more sponsors. There seem to be fewer.

SirMoby · 2005-11-17, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill

If revenues are increasing, why aren't sponsors increasing? This is the question that I'm really thinking about.

Increasing in the number of sponsors out there or increasing as in payouts?

I think in both cases it's profit margins. 8 years ago there was a huge demand and no one was doing it so a single site could bring in big bucks quickly using stolen content. You could also not give surfers a cancel link, no need for trials, upsell them to 5 different sites and then spam them 10 times a day. Basically for little investment you could create a site and milk each surfer for extra cash.

Today you can't do that so instead of making $100 off of the average customer they're making $40 but also instead of the surfer joining one site and getting ripped off they're now joining more sites and there are more surfers.

Eastern Europe, South America and Asia are all getting easier access to credit cards and I'm seeing them in my member's stats. $19.95 may be a lot of money for these guys but it still costs less then a hooker or even 2 drinks and a lap dance.

This business is supporting far more people then it did 8 years ago. Even if new surfers are leveling off then that just means that all the kids are on the Internet now and sooner or later they grow up and want to see some nakedness.

Halfdeck · 2005-11-18, 05:14 AM

I can see more sponsors dropping off because the quality of some of the sites out there have drastically improved, compared to what was out there 5-10 years ago. Online porn is just getting started. Just take a look at sponsors like Mayors Money that breaks the mold and offer HD videos .. their sites sell themselves.

faxxaff · 2005-11-27, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SirMoby

Eastern Europe, South America and Asia are all getting easier access to credit cards and I'm seeing them in my member's stats. $19.95 may be a lot of money for these guys but it still costs less then a hooker or even 2 drinks and a lap dance.

Hookers are much cheaper over here. For $19.95 you get many girls ....

SmutGiant · 2005-11-28, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by faxxaff

Hookers are much cheaper over here. For $19.95 you get many girls ....

Where do you live?

2005-11-18, 05:14 AM	#4
Halfdeck You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 985	I can see more sponsors dropping off because the quality of some of the sites out there have drastically improved, compared to what was out there 5-10 years ago. Online porn is just getting started. Just take a look at sponsors like Mayors Money that breaks the mold and offer HD videos .. their sites sell themselves. __________________ Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm.

2005-11-17, 05:18 PM	#1
SirMoby Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,706	I think overall revenues are increasing because the number of surfers are increaing and bandwidth these surfers has is going up as well. Also new billing options and more credit cards makes on-line purchases more accessable to the masses. Profit margins may be going down and there may be fewer new comers making mad money but the total pie is growing every day. More surfers + deeper market penitration = more $$$$

2005-11-17, 07:46 PM	#2
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Those are good arguments SirMoby, but I have some uncertainties about them. I'm not sure more broadband necessarily means more revenue, altho I'm willing to be persuaded. I've read a few sources, altho I don't have links handy, that suggests that the number of new western surfers (by that I mean US, Ca, UK, Western Europe, and Austrailia) is leveling off dramatically. I'd have to do some searching to find them again, so I may have misunderstood the articles. Worldwide, some 5 billion people can't participate easily in our billing systems, so non western surfers are just a drain on the servers at this point. When they can charge things on credit cards, I can't see any but the richest of them paying $40 a month for paysite memberships. If revenues are increasing, why aren't sponsors increasing? This is the question that I'm really thinking about. There should be more sponsors. There seem to be fewer.