Need help /raided and computers seized

weirdharold · 2005-11-19, 02:17 PM

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I won't want a whiphouse next door to mine. I don't want my children exposed to it, and I don't think that an commercial (receiving clinets) adult business should operate in a residential neighborhood.

So your rights out weigh all others? Now that is the point here, isn't it? If you don't think it is right then it is wrong! Seems to me you are forgetting that you have neighbors that would feel the same way if they knew you to be a pronographer. Does that make them right?

webwoman · 2005-11-19, 03:14 PM

Update...The free speech coalition has set me up with a first amendment attorney
in my area. Our appointment is on Monday at 4pm. people from the bdsm community are getting together and coming to my aid to help fight this raid. We are going to get the information we need and what the retainer will be to solve this case.
I'm and always will be upfront and helpful to all who seek help. I don't condemn people who speak their mind nor do I think your opinions are my business. You have that right.
This is about protecting all adult industry workers down the line. What you do to me will one day be you if this is not stopped now. It is because people like us who fight for the rights of all types of industry we have a chance.
If we sub divide from each other we lose the fight completely because we now are not fighting the officials who are trying to end the adult industry. We are fighting against each other just like they want us to. When this happens it allows them to continue to take steps to enforce yet another way to discredit all of us.
Yes, I built a site and yes its fetish not porn, But I also live the bdsm lifestyle and it is separate from my site. My freedom was violated because its not the norm.
I also think that if you were in the bdsm lifestyle you would understand the donation aspect and why we do that. Don't accuse me of selling sex because it is not even in the mix. My websites are more risky than my life. Because that is what the Internet craves. Do you want your private life put out for all to see. Rights are for all not just you and your adult business, Our familles would not want to live next door to a vanilla sex site either because its not what we believe. But I work in more than one type of business just like you...lifestyle is not the same as a website.Alot is acting and modeling to make money just like you.
Remember when you put my content up you thought that it was fine.
I did not come here to cry or anything like that. I came to say I will fight because I'm right. And all my records and zoning and what I do is in order ... They were hoping it was not. No arrest and no charges we made. But they looked puzzled by the proof that came from them in the first place..The town approved my business the court while in bankruptcy officially made it a priority to make me prove every aspect of my business before they issued me the right to declare my income as legitimate.
I had to document and take pictures of everything and submit it to the judge and as far as taxes every penny goes into my business account that the trustee monitors to ensure my income stays intack.I cant fool or hide anything from them. They have made me do all the paperwork necessary to stay up to date on my payments.
The town when they discovered this on Wednesday was shocked that they did not research me a lot better than they did. BECAUSE what this comes down to is the fact that they told me it was O.K.. It is all in writing. From them.
that's why the free speech coalition is willing to take my case.
I may have been raided but I will not be violated.
still dont know the real reason becase no search warrant was shown to us.
another reason why i seek help. Its our right to see one.

furrygirl · 2005-11-19, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by webwoman

If we sub divide from each other we lose the fight completely because we now are not fighting the officials who are trying to end the adult industry. We are fighting against each other just like they want us to. When this happens it allows them to continue to take steps to enforce yet another way to discredit all of us.

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Our familles would not want to live next door to a vanilla sex site either because its not what we believe.

Webwoman, I'm as much "on your side" as anyone here has been, but I didn't like this post one bit. You can't call for pervert solidarity and ask that we not infight in the face of government harassment, and then cast a stone at people who run "vanilla sex sites". It doesn't help anything to turn around the, "I don't want to live next to you, you're a weirdo!" argument on others.

2005-11-19, 03:14 PM	#2
webwoman Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 22	Update...The free speech coalition has set me up with a first amendment attorney in my area. Our appointment is on Monday at 4pm. people from the bdsm community are getting together and coming to my aid to help fight this raid. We are going to get the information we need and what the retainer will be to solve this case. I'm and always will be upfront and helpful to all who seek help. I don't condemn people who speak their mind nor do I think your opinions are my business. You have that right. This is about protecting all adult industry workers down the line. What you do to me will one day be you if this is not stopped now. It is because people like us who fight for the rights of all types of industry we have a chance. If we sub divide from each other we lose the fight completely because we now are not fighting the officials who are trying to end the adult industry. We are fighting against each other just like they want us to. When this happens it allows them to continue to take steps to enforce yet another way to discredit all of us. Yes, I built a site and yes its fetish not porn, But I also live the bdsm lifestyle and it is separate from my site. My freedom was violated because its not the norm. I also think that if you were in the bdsm lifestyle you would understand the donation aspect and why we do that. Don't accuse me of selling sex because it is not even in the mix. My websites are more risky than my life. Because that is what the Internet craves. Do you want your private life put out for all to see. Rights are for all not just you and your adult business, Our familles would not want to live next door to a vanilla sex site either because its not what we believe. But I work in more than one type of business just like you...lifestyle is not the same as a website.Alot is acting and modeling to make money just like you. Remember when you put my content up you thought that it was fine. I did not come here to cry or anything like that. I came to say I will fight because I'm right. And all my records and zoning and what I do is in order ... They were hoping it was not. No arrest and no charges we made. But they looked puzzled by the proof that came from them in the first place..The town approved my business the court while in bankruptcy officially made it a priority to make me prove every aspect of my business before they issued me the right to declare my income as legitimate. I had to document and take pictures of everything and submit it to the judge and as far as taxes every penny goes into my business account that the trustee monitors to ensure my income stays intack.I cant fool or hide anything from them. They have made me do all the paperwork necessary to stay up to date on my payments. The town when they discovered this on Wednesday was shocked that they did not research me a lot better than they did. BECAUSE what this comes down to is the fact that they told me it was O.K.. It is all in writing. From them. that's why the free speech coalition is willing to take my case. I may have been raided but I will not be violated. still dont know the real reason becase no search warrant was shown to us. another reason why i seek help. Its our right to see one.