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[GonZo]

Originally Posted by doublep

I was being sarcastic Gonzo!

I only know what I see on here since I dont know you. Sorry for jumping the gun.

Thought provoking thread on many levels nonetheless...one of the better ones Ive seen in months..


Quite a refreshing change as opposed to reading good morning greetings or cut and past of news articles.

[doublep]

Originally Posted by GonZo

I only know what I see on here since I dont know you. Sorry for jumping the gun.

Thought provoking thread on many levels nonetheless...one of the better ones Ive seen in months..


Quite a refreshing change as opposed to reading good morning greetings or cut and past of news articles.

NP gonzo ;-) This is an interesting thread... but in my humble opinion the last thing we need is knee jerk reactionary statements... we vote in politicians to do that shite!

People like webwomen have become easy targets for the authorities, not just in the States but in the UK too - in fact over there they are debating a ban on 'violent' pornography right now, and when they say violent, what they mean is S&M... anything of the beaten path [no pun intended] for that matter.. they may have relaxed the laws on 'vanilla' but the staffing costs of the vice squad have to be justified somehow - so lets go after someone who doesn't fit in, even if they are consenting adults.

We all know deep down where the authorities should be putting the effort in - don't we?

[Jeremy]

Originally Posted by doublep

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People like webwomen have become easy targets for the authorities, not just in the States but in the UK too - in fact over there they are debating a ban on 'violent' pornography right now, and when they say violent, what they mean is S&M... anything of the beaten path [no pun intended] for that matter.. they may have relaxed the laws on 'vanilla' but the staffing costs of the vice squad have to be justified somehow - so lets go after someone who doesn't fit in, even if they are consenting adults.
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In the proposals, when they say "violent" they mean GBH and beyond:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/h...5_porn_doc.pdf

They also mean anything outside of the BBFC guidelines:

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/Customers/guid...lines_R18.html

In reality, "hardcore" S&M films don't really fly in the UK currently anyway.

[doublep]

Originally Posted by Jeremy

In the proposals, when they say "violent" they mean GBH and beyond:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/h...5_porn_doc.pdf

They also mean anything outside of the BBFC guidelines:

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/Customers/guid...lines_R18.html

In reality, "hardcore" S&M films don't really fly in the UK currently anyway.

Cheers for the PDF GBH is a criminal offence in the UK anyway.

"Great Britain has a long history of erotic expression — from the Skin Two Rubber Ball (one of the world's largest S&M/fetish gatherings) to London's notoriously decadent Hellfire Club of the 18th century to the dominatrix-like attire that actress Diana Rigg often favored when she portrayed sexy spy Emma Peel on "The Avengers" — and the country's demand for erotica may be at an all-time high."

S&M-oriented porn, Woodward explained, is fighting an uphill battle in Britain despite the demand for it. "Most kinkier firms do not try to sell in the United Kingdom," Woodward said. "They simply sell via websites, and U.K. citizens will order illegally if they wish to. Customs may steal the DVDs as they come into the country — hence the popularity of downloading videos from web sites rather than getting them by mail."

Tim Woodward - Skin Two Magazine Nov 4 2005

I think you will find there is a quite a demand for S&M porn in the UK.

Paul.

[Jeremy]

Originally Posted by doublep

S&M-oriented porn, Woodward explained, is fighting an uphill battle in Britain despite the demand for it. "Most kinkier firms do not try to sell in the United Kingdom," Woodward said. "They simply sell via websites, and U.K. citizens will order illegally if they wish to. Customs may steal the DVDs as they come into the country — hence the popularity of downloading videos from web sites rather than getting them by mail."

Tim Woodward - Skin Two Magazine Nov 4 2005

I think you will find there is a quite a demand for S&M porn in the UK.

Absolutely Paul. There's a reason that the French (allegedly) call spanking "la vice anglaise". It's all supposed to be to do with public schools and buggery :-)

As the guy says, the demand is here, but you do run an big risk of an OPA prosecution if you publish hard S&M from the UK, so most don't.

To be honest though, when I read the kind of thing they envisaged outlawing possession of, I wasn't too sure where it fitted in with S&M in the first place.

[Wazza]

Originally Posted by doublep

I think you will find there is a quite a demand for S&M porn in the UK.

Paul.

Well the Tories aren't in power and the paparazzi are everywhere, so what did you expect?