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Old 2005-11-30, 04:49 PM   #1
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I agree with you Talleyrand, linklist owners must do this. But from the other side - do you think it's possible to give universal instuction? If so - then let's make it here and use on every linklist.
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Old 2005-11-30, 04:59 PM   #2
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How difficult is it to to understand the concept of not trying to trick the surfer into clicking on a link?

If you're unsure whether or not a link is blind, it most likely IS blind in the eyes of many reviewers.
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Old 2005-11-30, 05:15 PM   #3
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DEAR LEMMY:

If blind links are some so easy, why the link list owners have each one its own opinion about it?
When link list owners reject free sites for blind link, they says that they try to think like a surfer that will see the link. Why not to think like a webmaster about blind links? Is so difficult?

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How difficult is it to to understand the concept of not trying to trick the surfer into clicking on a link?

If you're unsure whether or not a link is blind, it most likely IS blind in the eyes of many reviewers.
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Old 2005-11-30, 05:47 PM   #4
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If blind links are some so easy, why the link list owners have each one its own opinion about it?
Don't confuse varied opinions with disagreement on the concept, it's just (for the most part) a difference in where they draw the line.

If you want your sites to be universally accepted make your links universally unambiguous. If you still get rejected for blind links you didn't try hard enough.

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I'm sure many webmasters agree with this concept, but how can you check if they trick surfer?
Put yourself in the shoes of a reasonable surfer (as opposed to a quarrelsome webmaster) and click the link. If you're surprised at where you end up, you've been tricked.
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Old 2005-11-30, 07:17 PM   #5
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It is a pity that the webmasters must to wait that some Big Boy will write clear rules about blind link. Then, other will run to copy the new rules to their link list.

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Don't confuse varied opinions with disagreement on the concept, it's just (for the most part) a difference in where they draw the line.

If you want your sites to be universally accepted make your links universally unambiguous. If you still get rejected for blind links you didn't try hard enough.


Put yourself in the shoes of a reasonable surfer (as opposed to a quarrelsome webmaster) and click the link. If you're surprised at where you end up, you've been tricked.
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Old 2005-11-30, 07:21 PM   #6
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Old 2005-11-30, 08:34 PM   #7
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Talleyrand, it doesn't get much clearer than this: Make it obvious to the surfer that the link will take them away from your site and somewhere else and you will never get rejected for blind links.
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Old 2005-11-30, 08:17 PM   #8
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DEAR SIR:

It is a pity that the webmasters must to wait that some Big Boy will write clear rules about blind link. Then, other will run to copy the new rules to their link list.

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ok now, really that's not getting you anywhere. The 'big boys' see hundreds more submissions per day than I do. They see the same crap cheaters day in and day out, in what I'm sure is very frustrating volume. Who do you think should make the rules?? And if they make a new rule I know it's (usually heheh) for a very good reason. Now why shouldn't I adopt that rule at my 'little LL' if I think it will weed out the crap before it begins?

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Old 2005-11-30, 09:24 PM   #9
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It is a pity that the webmasters must to wait that some Big Boy will write clear rules about blind link. Then, other will run to copy the new rules to their link list.
I'll say this loudly enough that the whole of Eastern Europe and Western Asia can hear me:

THAT IS WHY I STARTED THIS THREAD. I THOUGHT IT WAS HIGH TIME TO GET AS MANY LINK LIST OWNERS AS POSSIBLE TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT BLIND LINKS, SO THAT THE SUBMITTERS WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE A BUNCH OF OPINIONS AT ONCE.

AS IT TURNS OUT, EVERYONE WEST OF GERMANY SEEMS TO HAVE ABOUT THE SAME OPINION OF WHAT IS AND IS NOT A BLIND LINK.

NOW THAT THIS THREAD IS HERE, WHEN SOMEONE ASKS ABOUT BLIND LINKS LOTS OF US JUST POINT THEM TO THIS THREAD AND GO ABOUT OUR BUSINESS

WHY WOULD YOU BOTHER SAYING THAT "SOMEONE SHOULD GET TOGETHER A UNIVERSAL SET OF RULES ON WHAT IS AND IS NOT A BLIND LINK"

IN A FUCKING THREAD THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR???
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Put yourself in the shoes of a reasonable surfer (as opposed to a quarrelsome webmaster) and click the link. If you're surprised at where you end up, you've been tricked.
Fonz's post inspired me, Lemmy.

Not to confuse the issue, but...

DEAR SIR/MADAM,

Would it okay to make a link with:

"Blind Link - Click Here!"

... since then surfer KNOWS it is a blind link when he click it...so then he is not be surprised.


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Fonz's post inspired me, Lemmy.

Not to confuse the issue, but...

DEAR SIR/MADAM,

Would it okay to make a link with:

"Blind Link - Click Here!"

... since then surfer KNOWS it is a blind link when he click it...so then he is not be surprised.


Sounds like you just had an East European moment Simon
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Old 2005-11-30, 05:35 PM   #13
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How difficult is it to to understand the concept of not trying to trick the surfer into clicking on a link?
Apparently, that depends on the webmasters native language.

I'm not taking shots here on the ESL guys, but after reading some of these site descriptions -- and I know Lemmy gets some of the same ones I do -- it becomes obvious that they don't have a firm grasp of how to create a properly formed sentence.

I would imagine that would make it a bit more difficult to understand what might be considered "blind" and what would not. I couldn't even imagine trying to build a site in a foreign language.

That does not make it acceptable mind you, just a possible reason for some of the confusion.
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Old 2005-11-30, 05:07 PM   #14
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DEAR YAHOOK:

I think that the best rule must to born of link list owners posting about it. But for it is necessary that they want to do it...
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