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Old 2005-12-01, 10:22 AM   #1
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I have to say I find it interesting (and a little disturbing) that the majority of the people nominated are from the retail video / sex toy industry. That is right, retail.

Conner is the only person on that list that I could see that has a direct contact with the online adult industry.

Joan Irvine also leads ASACP, which makes me wonder if she has enough time and energy to properly do both jobs. I also find that the ASACP has undergone many changes in the last year, not all of which I am personally comfortable with.

Beyond that, it is pretty much flip a coin between "this retailer" and "that retailer".

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Old 2005-12-04, 06:23 AM   #2
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What The F@#$!

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I have to say I find it interesting (and a little disturbing) that the majority of the people nominated are from the retail video / sex toy industry. That is right, retail.

Conner is the only person on that list that I could see that has a direct contact with the online adult industry.
Now, I'm not making any accusations here but going on a trend that I've experienced with associations in other industries I've been involved with in the past.

1) Usually controlled and influenced by a small handful, cabal, of people that are serving their own interests and closely tied to the representative law firm which makes big bucks catering to their primary benefactors. The benefit for the small guy being usually and only being able to attach him/her self to whatever legal settlement is worked out (which is no small thing for example: the current 2257 protections and temp waiver)

For example: Any legal effort has numerous different avenues and/or paths/issues to follow. Why has there not been a menu of choices for members to VOTE on. You can do this or you can have that? Let's vote.

For example: I am aghast that there are no real personalities from the online world involved in this stuff. Why not? Is no one willing to step up (I'm not) and get involved or have they been shut out?

For example: I am aghast that FSC has not aggressively posted information and solicited opinoins on the larger boards like here? Why? I would suggest that they don't want them.

For example: I have been knocking myself silly trying to find a link to the public filings of the briefs in the 2257 issues. Non existent. The briefs SHOULD be freely available on their website. From what little info I've been able to find I'm a tad bit suspicious about how they are phrasing the argument (s) and what they appear to be willing to comprimise to and even the general direction they're taking it. BUT, honestly I don't have enough info to judge. WHY? I gotto go to CA and make a big mouth bitch at the meetings? Shouldn't have too... should we?

In a few more years porn delivery is going to be overwhelmingly digital. How we don't have MAJOR representation in this group is beyond me. Assoc. like this can be very powerful and are fairly easy to take over if a concerted effort is made by a handful of smart and involved people. Anybody interested?
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Old 2005-12-05, 04:36 AM   #3
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Kinda Surprised

I gotta admit, I'm kinda surprised |confused| . This looks like its a dead thread. I thought I was going to come back and see tons of posts, opinoins, research, links, etc. here.

Is there another association out there that is relevant to anything we do that I don't know about?

How is it that we can go on and on about guns, or red content, or the nit picky political issues of the day and not have anything to say about the single most important voice and presence representing what we do? I've seen comments about FSC both good and bad in more locations having nothing to do with the adult biz than I generally see on the boards (but very little about the people in it) and I know there was a huge rush toward membership when it was clear that it was the only path toward temporarily saving your butts from an aggressive Justice dept. policy and then what...? Move on?

OK, its cool. I guess? But I'm wondering if this is not a statement on something though I can't figure out what that statement might be. Things that make you go hmmmmmm
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Old 2005-12-05, 10:14 AM   #4
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I have to say I find it interesting (and a little disturbing) that the majority of the people nominated are from the retail video / sex toy industry. That is right, retail.

Conner is the only person on that list that I could see that has a direct contact with the online adult industry.

Joan Irvine also leads ASACP, which makes me wonder if she has enough time and energy to properly do both jobs. I also find that the ASACP has undergone many changes in the last year, not all of which I am personally comfortable with.

Beyond that, it is pretty much flip a coin between "this retailer" and "that retailer".

Alex
Joan has plenty of time to waffle back and forth on the .xxx domain issue. Her "statement" on the panel in San Diego was 2 fucking pages long.

Of course if I had Steve Lightspeed up my ass...Id be scrambling like a skillet of eggs too!
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