Seems ASACP has a new agenda

[Hammer]

I don't see anything in that article about making it mandatory. And what's new about the ASACP protecting children and encouraging webmasters to take measures to prevent children from accessing porn on our websites?

[Linkster]

I didnt say that this article said it was mandatory - I was referring to the CDA a few years ago (2000?) that was fought against by most adult web sites. It just seems we have now come full circle to where some people that (nope - gonna keep my mouth shut for now)

The part about protecting children is something that group has just gotten into -they were the clearing house for reporting c p for years and just changed their name recently to go with this new thrust of biz I guess. ASACP never had that as a goal when I joined years ago - that is a recent addition

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by Hammer

And what's new about the ASACP protecting children and encouraging webmasters to take measures to prevent children from accessing porn on our websites?

So that you understand - since you obviously havent been around the industry for a while or you just missed this part of it - ASACP until a year ago stood for Adult Sites Against Child Pornography - I was a guardian member of that organization and fully supported what they were doing - and still do support that drive to rid the internet of people that are the purveyors of that material.
that said - the organization has for some reason in the last year decided to become a political action group sided with the FSC (as a matter of fact look at the ballot for FSC board members and you will find one of ASACP's long time people as a candidate) in worrying about the legal aspects of this industry instead of doing what we originally set out to do - and from what Im seeing, their lack of getting out the people against the C P and the lack of even pushing it on the boards like they used to, has led to a general apathy reflected in board posts and messages about the spam that comes through - its a real damn shame that they have chosen to go this other route and become what the radical right-wingers would approve of and given up on their very noble original crusade.

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by Linkster

So that you understand - since you obviously havent been around the industry for a while

uh huh, right.

I've seen Joan at adult conventions for years and her agenda has always been the same, whether you knew it or not. I've been telling people for years that she only acts like our friend to further her agenda, just ask Steve Lightspeed. Assuming you've been in the business long enough to know him.

This isn't a new direction, it's just the continuation of the orginal direction and the ultimate goal which is to eliminate porn, or at least free porn, on the net.

[Useless]

Off topic but, isn't a hammer a tool?

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I don't see anything in that article about making it mandatory. And what's new about the ASACP protecting children and encouraging webmasters to take measures to prevent children from accessing porn on our websites?

I thought it was my responsibility as a parent to monitor the activities of my kids when they are online.

[Linkster]

It just amazes me that the same people (lawyers even) that fought against this type of stuff 5 years ago are now pushing this - what ever happened to their free speech mentality? I guess there's money to be made in those hills

[frankthetank]

Originally Posted by Linkster

It just amazes me that the same people (lawyers even) that fought against this type of stuff 5 years ago are now pushing this - what ever happened to their free speech mentality? I guess there's money to be made in those hills

I guess you are right. in Germany for example those systems are mandatory and they worked with a passport number in earlier days. Since 2004 there is a new law out which forces the webmaster to deliver some hardware to the user when he subscribes to a website.

He only gets access with this hardware and it has to be delivered by regular mail. of course there is money in it for those companies protecting website.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

I thought it was my responsibility as a parent to monitor the activities of my kids when they are online.

I concur.