So, I have been thinking about this Cambria Struggles in Senate Porn Hearings

MeatPounder · 2006-01-26, 02:52 PM

LOL, I know from my server stats that I always hit peaks of traffic during US business hrs, that implies that an awful lot of of US workers are browsing porn on the job

The use of ICRA labels will sure cut that down...LMAO

Bill · 2006-01-26, 04:23 PM

Well, sorry Walrus, I do feel a bit sarcastic about it, because we've had this conversation more than a few times, and each time that page comes up, and each time I'm left with the conclusion that PICS page is utterly impenetrable, and each time it turns out there isn't any simple way to write one's own simple PICS code.

I could be wrong, but I defy anyone here, except maybe cd34, to go to that page and come away with an understanding of how to write a PICS code for their own pages within less than two hours. Hell, within less than a day.

Have you read it? I have, and I still don't have the slightest idea what the fuck they are talking about.

An impenetrable standard is just as bad as no standard at all. Actually, it's worse than no standard.

If it's a simple matter to set servers to send PICS responses to requests, why isn't everyone doing this already? Why isn't this the default setting offered by adult hosts?

However, I personally don't think this conversation should be about ICRA, or even about forcing computer manufacturers to put a nonexistent v-chip into all computers.

It should be about figuring out a better way to give webmasters a political voice.

Bill · 2006-01-26, 04:36 PM

So, talking about the political voice aspect of this, here are some of the issues that I'm seeing in this problem...

It's probably not practical to think about organizing webmasters - it's been tried before and has failed every time.

But, if we want a voice, we would need some type of organization.

It seems to me that the most practical thing would be to try to get the FSC to establish a genuinely effective "Internet Department". To ally ourselves with that older established organization, but to _make_ them institute some organizational changes so that our concerns and issues get put on the political table alongside the concerns of the video manufacturers and bookstore owners.

This means something like witholding this years membershio fees unless they establish a real internet department, with someone like Connor Young in charge, a department that listens to us and which brings the FSC into the 21st century.

So, thats my suggestion, a letter writing campaign in which we say we will withold membership unless an internet department is established.

There should be a carrot, too - that is, we should commit to doubling our contribution when an internet department is established.

2006-01-26, 02:52 PM	#1
MeatPounder Women might be able to fake orgasms But men can fake whole relationships Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl Posts: 2,408	LOL, I know from my server stats that I always hit peaks of traffic during US business hrs, that implies that an awful lot of of US workers are browsing porn on the job The use of ICRA labels will sure cut that down...LMAO

2006-01-26, 04:23 PM	#2
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Well, sorry Walrus, I do feel a bit sarcastic about it, because we've had this conversation more than a few times, and each time that page comes up, and each time I'm left with the conclusion that PICS page is utterly impenetrable, and each time it turns out there isn't any simple way to write one's own simple PICS code. I could be wrong, but I defy anyone here, except maybe cd34, to go to that page and come away with an understanding of how to write a PICS code for their own pages within less than two hours. Hell, within less than a day. Have you read it? I have, and I still don't have the slightest idea what the fuck they are talking about. An impenetrable standard is just as bad as no standard at all. Actually, it's worse than no standard. If it's a simple matter to set servers to send PICS responses to requests, why isn't everyone doing this already? Why isn't this the default setting offered by adult hosts? However, I personally don't think this conversation should be about ICRA, or even about forcing computer manufacturers to put a nonexistent v-chip into all computers. It should be about figuring out a better way to give webmasters a political voice.

2006-01-26, 04:36 PM	#3
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	So, talking about the political voice aspect of this, here are some of the issues that I'm seeing in this problem... It's probably not practical to think about organizing webmasters - it's been tried before and has failed every time. But, if we want a voice, we would need some type of organization. It seems to me that the most practical thing would be to try to get the FSC to establish a genuinely effective "Internet Department". To ally ourselves with that older established organization, but to _make_ them institute some organizational changes so that our concerns and issues get put on the political table alongside the concerns of the video manufacturers and bookstore owners. This means something like witholding this years membershio fees unless they establish a real internet department, with someone like Connor Young in charge, a department that listens to us and which brings the FSC into the 21st century. So, thats my suggestion, a letter writing campaign in which we say we will withold membership unless an internet department is established. There should be a carrot, too - that is, we should commit to doubling our contribution when an internet department is established.