"Political Influence of Adult Sites" and "Free Speech Coalition" pressure.

[Tommy]

we could outline some things that we want action on and even sign a petition and give it to the FSC

[Bill]

It occurs to me that our first obligation is to research the Free Speech Coalition a lot more.

I know I have the tendency to think of the FSC as ignoring the online sector, but, at the same time, I don't know that we in the online sector have done a good job of talking to the FSC.

We expect certain very efficient online means of discussion. Message boards, for instance, let ideas move thru the online sector in hours or days. FSC doesn't have a message board, so it looks slow and kinda dumb to us.

But, they might be more interested in getting new blood and extra energy than we think.

So, the first task would be to research the FSC, to get names and addresses, and to get a better idea of their plans.

Which, BTW, could be part of the information needed for the 'adult webmasters statement' talked about in the political influence thread.

[Bill]

This looks like it might be a damn good first place to start applying pressure:

http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/contribution.php

" Due to technical difficulties, ordering online is temporarily unavailable. We apologize for the inconvenience. "

This has been my biggest bitch about the FSC from the beginning.

[Bill]

The big problem that occurs to me with the "position statement" is this:

Who hosts it? Who is willing to be the public figure representing adult webmasters in general?

This is one argument for having something that is posting on hundreds of individual domains, rather than a centralized statement.

But, a centralized statement is more likley to be taken seriously, to be found by many many surfers, and to be repeated, to become a meme.

This same "public figure" problem affects dealing with the FSC and all other attempts to gain some type of political power and influence.

The only 'public figure' I expect we could all agree on here is Greenguy. But that would be a tough job to try to foist on a nice guy.

Connor Young seems to be the other alternative.

[DJilla]

Originally Posted by Bill

The big problem that occurs to me with the "position statement" is this:

Who hosts it? Who is willing to be the public figure representing adult webmasters in general?

This is one argument for having something that is posting on hundreds of individual domains, rather than a centralized statement.

But, a centralized statement is more likley to be taken seriously, to be found by many many surfers, and to be repeated, to become a meme.

This same "public figure" problem affects dealing with the FSC and all other attempts to gain some type of political power and influence.

The only 'public figure' I expect we could all agree on here is Greenguy. But that would be a tough job to try to foist on a nice guy.

Connor Young seems to be the other alternative.

IMHO, Sometimes its a good idea to throw everythig at the wall and see what sticks and then refine that. A "public figure" might indeed be hard to come up with initially and even unnecesary at this juncture. Getting started is always the hard part but getting started with what we have I think is the easiest (a gazillion CPU cycles). A web site, everyones website, an official position, a modified official position can all be done at the same time.

What I'm thinking is that an "official position paper" can be carved and sculpted right here with the input of everyone over a period of time. This could go as a top post of a thread for those "in da biz". Not everyone is a great writer (link descriptions aside ) so if there was a "generic paper" they could cut and paste into their own site with a link to something more substantial that was hosted on its own site just like we have a link to WM info this would be a start.

The "generic paper" could be modified by WM's that had the inclination.
The "official paper" could be referenced by media, other boards, groups, by the link provided within the gneric papers on in dividual sites.

With the FSC, I think we need to first see where they are coming from and determine their willingness to bring us more actively into the fold and incorporate our point of view (s). Connor was cool, probably a good start.