Official "I've Linked Free Speech" Thread

MrYum · 2006-02-04, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by virgohippy

Thanks for making the selling point, and driving it home. The link is going up on my rinky-dink lil site.

Would "exit" links on warning pages be a good idea too? I know a lot of people send their exits to search engines without getting any kind of return... why not the FSC instead? Maybe list owners could make a suggestion on their rules and submissions pages?

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Not a bad idea at all Virgo...and good thinking on your part to even consider it

But, as a reviewer...if there is an exist link, I prefer to see it go to something completely non adult related. Whether than be an SE, or Warning Pages, or some non adult site the submitter has set up to handle that traffic. I've seen ring tones, tshirts...etc..

While the FSC certainly isn't an adult site, it is a site that represents adult entertainment. I treat exit links as an exit for those either under age...or those that don't want to see adult entertainment. Sending either of those groups to the FSC would be pretty fruitless anyway. Just mho of course

virgohippy · 2006-02-05, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MrYum

Not a bad idea at all Virgo...and good thinking on your part to even consider it

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by MrYum

But, as a reviewer...if there is an exist link, I prefer to see it go to something completely non adult related. Whether than be an SE, or Warning Pages, or some non adult site the submitter has set up to handle that traffic. I've seen ring tones, tshirts...etc..

While the FSC certainly isn't an adult site, it is a site that represents adult entertainment. I treat exit links as an exit for those either under age...or those that don't want to see adult entertainment. Sending either of those groups to the FSC would be pretty fruitless anyway. Just mho of course

I see. Good point - it shouldn't be tricky business.

DJilla · 2006-02-06, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MrYum

Not a bad idea at all Virgo...and good thinking on your part to even consider it

But, as a reviewer...if there is an exist link, I prefer to see it go to something completely non adult related. Whether than be an SE, or Warning Pages, or some non adult site the submitter has set up to handle that traffic. I've seen ring tones, tshirts...etc..

While the FSC certainly isn't an adult site, it is a site that represents adult entertainment. I treat exit links as an exit for those either under age...or those that don't want to see adult entertainment. Sending either of those groups to the FSC would be pretty fruitless anyway. Just mho of course

Virgo: "Exit links" was a great idea. Personally, I don't see the problem and think Free Speech is not the same as porn access on an exit link. BUT, there are a lot of LL's out there each with their own reviewers and tastes and you shouldn't have to lose a listing because of the exit link.

Here's A Solution: Just include the FSC link in your regular recip table. That way people can click it who are truly interested. Lots of Free Site links are a great way to further improve the SE ranking of FSC in addition to getting them some traffic.

Maybe LL owners could even encourage it on their submit pages too!

This is a great start folks but lets get even more links to FSC going and tell us about it here. Its important that FSC can see we are committed and capable of real results oriented action.

I'm starting to feel good about the future of WM's and FSC

Have a Great Day!

Surfn · 2006-02-06, 09:06 AM

I agree with Mr Yum

Useless · 2006-02-06, 09:26 AM

Though I honestly can't see anyone including a link to the FSC on every free site, if they do, I believe it would be far wiser to use the exit link strategy. The exit link, frankly, is bull shit anyway. I can't foresee a startled surfer coming upon your free site and sifting through all the other shit in order to find your exit link which is probably 20px smaller than any other link on that page. They'd simply go back from where the came. Click. The exit link is only clicked by truly curious cats and those are the fuckers you want to target. Most porn surfers won't care or most likely don't believe that their porn will be taken away anymore than the folks thought there'd ever be a prohibition.

If you place a non-recip link in your recip table, you are much more likely to get that site declined. The recip table is hallowed ground. Don't bury your dead dog there and expect the gods to look favorably upon you.

DJilla · 2006-02-06, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Most porn surfers won't care or most likely don't believe that their porn will be taken away anymore than the folks thought there'd ever be a prohibition.

Too True!

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

If you place a non-recip link in your recip table, you are much more likely to get that site declined. The recip table is hallowed ground. Don't bury your dead dog there and expect the gods to look favorably upon you.

Really! I woudn't have thought. I stand corrected!

Useless · 2006-02-06, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DJilla

Really! I woudn't have thought. I stand corrected!

No, not really. That was just my opinion and I often find that some of my thoughts and opinions are not the general consensus. You never know what everyone thinks until you hear more angles. Hell, someone may pop in this thread and say something that will make me rethink it and do a 180. I'm glad to see this being discussed.

MrYum · 2006-02-06, 10:43 AM

Yea, I don't think the recip table would fly either. But, for different reasons. The few surfers who do hit the recips are looking for more porn...they're going to hit the FSC site and click back immediately. There's not really enough room in a recip table to give any idea of what the FSC is about. If we're going to do this...let's do it right...TARGET the traffic to the FSC...at least try to get them the folks that 'might' be interested.

Oh, and while it's rare...I disagree with UW on the exit links...already stated why

However, I am a supporter of the FSC...as is evidenced by the prominent spot I gave them on the root of FPP

So, let's try to send them some targetted traffic that might actually be useful. To do my part, I'm willing to ignore a link to the FSC on entry pages. That way you can have a bit of explanatory text as to what the FSC is about...and why it's important. Don't know how many other link list owners will jump on board with this option. So, another possibility would be for free site builders to give up one of their sponsor links on entry pages. Either of these options allows us to send the FSC not only linkage, but hopefully a few targetted surfers too.

A word of caution on some of the FSC banners. The first couple I checked were HUGE. The one I chose to use was over 80k for a standard sized banner. By removing half the frames, I got it down to about 40k. If anyone would like to use that banner, feel free to harvest it from the root of FPP

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Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	Though I honestly can't see anyone including a link to the FSC on every free site, if they do, I believe it would be far wiser to use the exit link strategy. The exit link, frankly, is bull shit anyway. I can't foresee a startled surfer coming upon your free site and sifting through all the other shit in order to find your exit link which is probably 20px smaller than any other link on that page. They'd simply go back from where the came. Click. The exit link is only clicked by truly curious cats and those are the fuckers you want to target. Most porn surfers won't care or most likely don't believe that their porn will be taken away anymore than the folks thought there'd ever be a prohibition. If you place a non-recip link in your recip table, you are much more likely to get that site declined. The recip table is hallowed ground. Don't bury your dead dog there and expect the gods to look favorably upon you. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2006-02-06, 10:43 AM	#8
MrYum Arghhhh...submit yer sites ya ruddy swabs! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sunny Florida! Posts: 5,108	Yea, I don't think the recip table would fly either. But, for different reasons. The few surfers who do hit the recips are looking for more porn...they're going to hit the FSC site and click back immediately. There's not really enough room in a recip table to give any idea of what the FSC is about. If we're going to do this...let's do it right...TARGET the traffic to the FSC...at least try to get them the folks that 'might' be interested. Oh, and while it's rare...I disagree with UW on the exit links...already stated why However, I am a supporter of the FSC...as is evidenced by the prominent spot I gave them on the root of FPP So, let's try to send them some targetted traffic that might actually be useful. To do my part, I'm willing to ignore a link to the FSC on entry pages. That way you can have a bit of explanatory text as to what the FSC is about...and why it's important. Don't know how many other link list owners will jump on board with this option. So, another possibility would be for free site builders to give up one of their sponsor links on entry pages. Either of these options allows us to send the FSC not only linkage, but hopefully a few targetted surfers too. A word of caution on some of the FSC banners. The first couple I checked were HUGE. The one I chose to use was over 80k for a standard sized banner. By removing half the frames, I got it down to about 40k. If anyone would like to use that banner, feel free to harvest it from the root of FPP __________________ Porno Flixxx Submissions SOTI Site Submissions Free Porn Resource Submissions