What internet content label do you think should be the standard and promoted as such?

[RawAlex]

At the end of the day Moby, the idea is to keep children away from adult things. "adult hate" and "adult drugs" and "adult pony rides" are all adult. If you are over 18, you can drink, you can die in a war, you can look at hate material, and you can enjoy porn.

Adult is adult is adult, I think.

The idea is everyone has to label. Not just adult sites... ALL sites. If you have a website, you have to label, the same way all TV shows have to rate, even if they are childrens shows. It isn't to great a ghetto of adult sites and nothing else. If you don't do this sort of thing, people will just build adult sites without the rating and say "fuck it". Everyone has to forced in, and then it is all good.

Alex

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

At the end of the day Moby, the idea is to keep children away from adult things. "adult hate" and "adult drugs" and "adult pony rides" are all adult. If you are over 18, you can drink, you can die in a war, you can look at hate material, and you can enjoy porn.

Adult is adult is adult, I think.

The idea is everyone has to label. Not just adult sites... ALL sites. If you have a website, you have to label, the same way all TV shows have to rate, even if they are childrens shows. It isn't to great a ghetto of adult sites and nothing else. If you don't do this sort of thing, people will just build adult sites without the rating and say "fuck it". Everyone has to forced in, and then it is all good.

Alex

Why are you debating me on a point where we both agree?

Think past this arguement and onto the stage of pushing it through congress. Why shouldn't they simply say that "Adult" is only about sexual material? If they do then it makes for a great news story, keeps them from ever having to label their own sites and gets the support of voters.

Stop arguing with me on the issue of all sites. It's a waste of energy since we both agree.

Please start thinking about the politicians, the media and Hollywood. They will all push for the rating system to only be used for sexual material so none of them have to label anything.

[odysseus]

Originally Posted by wazza

As for locking my new puter down in kiddy mode and requiring me to make it suitable for my use... fuck that for a joke! I bought the fucking thing. Dumbing things down, to mollycoddle children and the dickheads who are apparently so fucking proud of the fact that their parenting skills leave a lot to be desired that they won't stop admitting it in public, is not the answer imo.

While I agree that dumbing down and mollycoddling isn't cool, the sad fact is that people are stupid, and to teach them how to do something for themselves isn't always as easy as you would expect. I could be wrong, I'm pretty jaded and cynical. The fact also remains that computers aren't all purchased by adults for themselves. Perhaps have an option for the parents to add a "kid safe default" when they are selecting all the gizmos to add to their computer they are buying at dell.com or something. That way if grandma technophobe wanted to buy little jimmy a computer for his birthday, it would be easy. It would already be kid safe. But, you are right. If you bought it you should have say.

Still, I'm not arguing with you, I don't like things being dumbed down. For instance, I don't think wearing seatbelts should be a law. And I also think that your insurance company shouldn't be responsible for injuries received from not wearing one. Same goes for motorcyle helmets, but that's just an example. I'm big on accountability for ones self, and for those you are responsible for. So, we are on the same page, to a degree.

But, as Sir Moby and Raw Alex are pointing out, the political nonsense that would surround establishing a standard is mind boggling. Considering the political climate in the US right now, nothing seems simple, straight forward, and sensible. It's very frustrating.