Your opinion and help please?

[swedguy]

Huh...swedguy? Do you submit as "digifan"? I don't remember seeing any of your sites and I can't find them in the DB.

My personal opinion about Abby Winters is that I will never touch them. Just because of their attitude towards afilliates and teaching surfers that afilliates are generally bad and teaching them how to change URL's so the afilliate will not get credit.

[Ms Naughty]

Originally Posted by swedguy

My personal opinion about Abby Winters is that I will never touch them. Just because of their attitude towards afilliates and teaching surfers that afilliates are generally bad and teaching them how to change URL's so the afilliate will not get credit.

Swedguy... can you give more information? I haven't heard that assertion before - is there an example that they're teaching surfers not to use affiliate codes?

I got the email from Abby Winters demanding I prove that I was a worthy affiliate, which I must admit was a bit strange in a business sense, but I understand their ethics in trying to make sure their models are respected.

And have some linklist owners here really declined someone's free sites due to "boring text"? That's a little subjective, don't you think? What qualifies as "exciting text"?

[digifan]

Originally Posted by grandmascrotum

Swedguy... can you give more information? I haven't heard that assertion before - is there an example that they're teaching surfers not to use affiliate codes?

I got the email from Abby Winters demanding I prove that I was a worthy affiliate, which I must admit was a bit strange in a business sense, but I understand their ethics in trying to make sure their models are respected.

And have some linklist owners here really declined someone's free sites due to "boring text"? That's a little subjective, don't you think? What qualifies as "exciting text"?

Thank you Grandma, I was hoping others also post here and missed asking Swedguy the same question but I have no idea where it came from. I have to stick up with them, especially Abby despite being a very hard worker because they have been very helpful to me in email, on icq whenever I needed their help and in all possible ways. I have been treated extremely well always and I know I am not their #1 affiliate, there are lots more making more money to them. I did't get this email either, I suppose because we could contact each other always.

The exciting text theory is based on the fact that most surfers are still male and like to see some naughty text and girls talking to them dirty so they whip out the plastic easier but AW has their fans and followers and if I get rejected then i try and submit the galleries elsewhere. I always told myself the saying: a picture is worth 1000 words

Ignore that postscript please in my first post and feel free to "bash" me if you think so I deserve it, I am a survivor I can assure you

[Halfdeck]

Originally Posted by Halfdeck

One thing still bothers me is when a member talks about chopping off affiliate codes, she doesn't say anything to discourage him.

I found another post here (and yes I just quoted myself, lol):

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache...s&ct=clnk&cd=6

Where Abby does clearly tell members not to clear cookies.

Originally Posted by Aspergian
When I first read this I made a mental note to make sure that I cleared ALL my cookies and went directly to www.abbywinters.com when I signed up for 3 month access this time.

ABBY: Eeek! You're not supposed to do that! No matter... but anyone else reading this, please don't kill your cookies.

[digifan]

Originally Posted by Halfdeck

Since I promote AW, I did a little digging and found this post by Abby:

My main problem with the affs, is that I work my arse off 80, 90 hours a week to make the site as best as I possibly can. The staff I employ work hard as well, and they care about the site too. Yet I have to give away HALF of my gross to some lazy (six to ten hours a week's work) guys who make a few web pages with MY images, and post them on the net!?

Hardly seems fair...

http://forums.abbywinters.com/vbulle...2&page=1&pp=40

I know she doesn't know how hard most affiliates work so I won't hold those words against her, but considering affiliates get half of monthly and no rebills (basically 8 ~ 20 bucks/sale) I really think she is getting the better end of the deal.

Trust me she is working her ass off even on the weekends... and the stuff and models are her friends. I am doing some better sales like $44 sales and rebills are closer, introduced from April, did you know it?

[Halfdeck]

Originally Posted by digifan

Trust me she is working her ass off even on the weekends... and the stuff and models are her friends. I am doing some better sales like $44 sales and rebills are closer, introduced from April, did you know it?

I've edited my post; re-read it please I know the rebills are coming. I just posted the thread swedguy must have been referring to. I have no complaints with the way she runs her business; I'll promote her even if she had no affiliate program.

[digifan]

Originally Posted by Halfdeck

I've edited my post; re-read it please I know the rebills are coming. I just posted the thread swedguy must have been referring to. I have no complaints with the way she runs her business; I'll promote her even if she had no affiliate program.

I cached the page lol... then hit refresh and there goes the edited post and Mr Yum, respect to you for respecting women. I know that dirty talking can be a great sales pitch and that 90% of the surfers are guys but even non nude sells if you master it so we are not worse just different.