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Old 2006-02-26, 04:08 PM   #1
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In your case, a user named "stevee" was signed in through your site, who
in turn tried to hack our members system for scripting holes from an
Austrian IP. This is also why we have deactivated your partnership
altogether as introducing a hacker of this magnitude is definite
grounds for such a deactivation.
Oi!! Don't blame shit that a European did on an Aussie!!! Like Digifan said theres a big difference between Austrian and Australian man.
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Old 2006-02-26, 07:49 PM   #2
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Oi!! Don't blame shit that a European did on an Aussie!!! Like Digifan said theres a big difference between Austrian and Australian man.
No offense to Aussies, I love 'em. Still, as far as I know, the guy meant Australia. Not one hit came into my domain or clicked out from Austria. It's not hard to do DNS lookups for 23 clickthrus

EDIT: Hits came from:

Singapore
Saudi Arabia
Malasia
Atlanta, Georgia
China
Australia, sydney
Thailand, Bangkok
Mountain View, California
Reston, Virginia
Indonesia
Vancouver, Canada
West Bloomfield, Michigan
Seol, Korea
Calgary, Canada

Anyway, time to move on
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Old 2006-02-26, 10:45 PM   #3
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This is Moon Angel. After reading all the "carnage" that occurred on this message board I decided to jump in and defend myself and explain exactly why I decided to deactivate Half Deck's affiliate account with us.

First of all, I told Half Deck it was an Austrian IP that hacked my site, using an account purchased via an Australian IP. I made a slight mistake, it wasn't an Austrian IP, it was actually a Czech IP. The user in question, "stevee" first logged on in 2-11-2006:

February 11th 2006 05:32:02 AM|211.26.186.17|stevee|Login Successful Session=3XRryFgd9RwwlPzjMNSyygxGaVZWYl
PK||

211.26.186.17 is indeed an australian IP. However, a few days after his "purchase", this user decided to make hack attempts against my site as follows:

February 13th 2006 03:46:08 AM|195.47.32.27|stevee|Illegal Characters in Request (/fruity/new3/ma/anya/../.
./../../../.htaccess)|
moonauth.02-14-06:February 13th 2006 03:46:08 AM|195.47.32.27|stevee|Illegal Characters in Request (/fruity/new3/ma/anya/../.
./../../../.htaccess)|
moonauth.02-14-06:February 13th 2006 03:46:08 AM|195.47.32.27|stevee|Illegal Characters in Request (/fruity/new3/ma/anya/../.
./../../../.htaccess)|

I'm not sure about any of you guys, but I take it as a severe insult when someone is attempting to break into my site.

Anyhow, I commonly group the Austrians and Czechs together in one subnet verification pool since they're so close in geographic proximity, my bad.

I have been running Moon Angel for over 10 years now (go ahead and do a whois on moonangel.com for the Record creation date ) and my affiliate site for nearly a year now, and rarely in the history of my site have I seen a hack attempt of this magnitude against my members gallery scripting. Since it was the first order that came through with half deck, and very little traffic was exchanged, I decided it would be in our best interest to deactivate his affiliate account to avoid the introduction of any future "hacked" accounts.

Anyhow, I think my last message to Half Deck pretty much sums it all up:

We reserve the right to terminate partnership at anytime as our policy states. You have not made any money for us nor have we made any money for you, so I think its fair that you just move on to another affiliate. This was a worst-case scenario of an extremely malicious (and rare) hacker, and if your site is somehow attracting these types of individuals, i'd rather not be linked nor partner with your site.

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Old 2006-02-26, 11:27 PM   #4
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...if your site is somehow attracting these types of individuals, i'd rather not be linked nor partner with your site.
I can see why Halfdeck is pissed. The implication of the above statement is not only unwarranted based of the available facts, but it's also borderline slanderous. Implying that he is in the slightest way responsible for a hacker finding your site is way out of line.
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Old 2006-02-27, 12:34 AM   #5
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I'm not sure about any of you guys, but I take it as a severe insult when someone is attempting to break into my site.
Get used to it. If your site becomes popular people will try to hack it.
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Old 2006-02-27, 09:57 AM   #6
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This was a worst-case scenario of an extremely malicious (and rare) hacker, and if your site is somehow attracting these types of individuals, i'd rather not be linked nor partner with your site.[/i]

Sincerely,
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How does your last meal look? I'm guessing you can see it directly in front of you with your head that far up your ass.

How can you blame an affiliate for a hacking attempt? If the sale came directly from Google, would you deny Google's traffic? I sense a grand future in republican politics for you, moonbeam.
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Old 2006-02-27, 10:13 AM   #7
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We reserve the right to terminate partnership at anytime as our policy states. You have not made any money for us nor have we made any money for you, so I think its fair that you just move on to another affiliate. This was a worst-case scenario of an extremely malicious (and rare) hacker, and if your site is somehow attracting these types of individuals, i'd rather not be linked nor partner with your site.

Sincerely,
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You have certainly chosen the right nick. Good luck getting any good affiliates from this board.
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Old 2006-02-27, 10:54 AM   #8
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When I read moonangel's post I had to laugh. Nothing like killing off your affiliate program. Nobody in their right mind will promote you program now. Good luck with it, you will definitely need it.

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Old 2006-02-27, 06:32 PM   #9
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Theres alot of wasted hot air in here...

You guys need to chill the |shocking| out!
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Old 2006-02-27, 06:46 PM   #10
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BAN the lamer moonangel GG
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Old 2006-02-27, 06:54 PM   #11
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BAN the lamer moonangel GG
I'll second that motion. Placing a 810x1280 image in his sig, lamer is right. Uh, make that a disrepectful lamer.
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Old 2006-02-27, 07:32 PM   #12
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You guys need to chill the |shocking| out!
You shot yourself in the foot by being an ass...so you come back and pull your pants down to show your ass??? Smooth move!
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Old 2006-02-27, 09:37 PM   #13
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You guys need to chill the |shocking| out!
Hey...you brought it on yourself by being a complete dumbass Mr |shocking|

Don't be surprised when helpful folks of these forums take their valuable time and effort to point out your dumbassedness
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Old 2006-02-27, 11:29 PM   #14
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Halfdeck, too bad you couldn't find out where that person came from
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February 11th 2006 05:32:02 AM|211.26.186.17|stevee|Login Successful Session=3XRryFgd9RwwlPzjMNSyygxGaVZWYl
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I went through my server stats and fished out 3 australian IPs. One is 211.26.186.17 -- he came to my site from http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=FP...rnsite%20reviews at 2006-02-11 08:32:27
Jim, the hacker came into my site directly from Yahoo (times like this I'm glad I wrote a script that tracks everything ). The backward timestamps are probably due to our servers being in different time zones.


Last night, Ryan wrote me an email saying that he dropped me solely for security reasons -- and that he is willing to reactivate my account. I chose to think it over. This afternoon, he called me up on the phone.

He explained his site has a bad history with traffic coming from an affiliate that promoted him using a fake TGP. He also said he regularly flies over to Asia to shoot his models, so he feels a bit protective about his content. He added that his affiliate program has only been up for about a year.

Apprently, he freaked out when he received a hack attempt alert and deactivated my account on impulse. He told me that in hindsight, he realizes he made a mistake.

He also said he was about to apologize to me before I posted this thread. I did warn him several hours before actually posting, and I emailed him the link after I posted so he has a chance to make his case. His previous emails lead me to think he already made up his mind, and his first post in this thread didn't at all sound apologetic, though at that point I figure he was too annoyed at reading what was being posted to do much else but defend himself.

In the end, everyone fucks up. What matters to me is when you fuck up, you admit you fucked up, make amends, and try not to make the same mistake twice. That's how I like to operate. Though it took alot of doing, Ryan has apologized to me and offered to reactivate my account. After thinking it over, I've decided to accept.

For the guys who came to my defense in this thread and pumped up the heat in the oven, all I can say is thanks.
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Old 2006-02-27, 01:48 PM   #15
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This was a worst-case scenario of an extremely malicious (and rare) hacker, and if your site is somehow attracting these types of individuals, i'd rather not be linked nor partner with your site.
This is just so darn ridiculous that I have big problems believing it’s true at all…
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February 13th 2006 03:46:08 AM|195.47.32.27|stevee|Illegal Characters in Request (/fruity/new3/ma/anya/../.
./../../../.htaccess)|
moonauth.02-14-06:February 13th 2006 03:46:08 AM|195.47.32.27|stevee|Illegal Characters in Request (/fruity/new3/ma/anya/../.
./../../../.htaccess)|
moonauth.02-14-06:February 13th 2006 03:46:08 AM|195.47.32.27|stevee|Illegal Characters in Request (/fruity/new3/ma/anya/../.
./../../../.htaccess)|
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and rarely in the history of my site have I seen a hack attempt of this magnitude against my members gallery scripting.
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This was a worst-case scenario of an extremely malicious (and rare) hacker
I don't know what to say but....

Malicious and rare?
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Old 2006-02-27, 07:27 AM   #17
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I see this thread grew a little...

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...if your site is somehow attracting these types of individuals, i'd rather not be linked nor partner with your site.
That's just fucked up thinking. |noclue|
If you want to use an "IF" logic in your equation, then you should consider an "ELSE" along with your "THEN" decision. Too late for you now, I'm sure Halfdeck would be pissed at being spit at like this, but you sure lost yourself a good affiliate. A little checking around would have been a good idea. Personally I'd take all the traffic he could send me. You really stepped on your foreskin with this one.

(we need a smiley for that one)

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Get used to it. If your site becomes popular people will try to hack it.
Sometimes even if it's just been around a long time. We have some older domains that get hacked at all the time. Not popular, just old. But yeah, it's a sign you're getting more popular as the number of hack attempts increase.

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Oi!! Don't blame shit that a European did on an Aussie!!!
Like Digifan said theres a big difference between Austrian and Australian man.
Aw fuck, ya mean Arnold Swarzenegger isn't an Aussie????


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