Question from a photographer...

emmanuelle · 2006-03-23, 10:21 AM

Take the $200 and run. Few people are interested in a 300 pic set, other than to weed out the best 100 of the bunch. Furthermore, $200 is a good deal (for the photographer) for a softcore set.
The business is much different than it was a few years ago, or even 2 years ago. Digital SLR's have broken the $1000 threshold, and everybody fancies themself a photographer these days.

While not disparging your work, (as you know, I truly appreciate your style); technically excellent photos are not required for the net, and rarely recognized.

We have access to technically perfect and more artistic photographers, but prefer to shoot at a slightly less quality in the name of efficiency. For $150-$200 I can shoot a model for 4 hours, and get 20 sets of solo content, including toys plus about 40 minutes of video.

Interestingly enough, our most artistic (and technically proficient) content is the least popular with our members. Webmasters love it, but it's a tough sell.

tortus32 · 2006-03-23, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by emmanuelle

For $150-$200 I can shoot a model for 4 hours, and get 20 sets of solo content, including toys plus about 40 minutes of video.

Wow, really?

I can't find any model that will work for less than $150 an hour, especially if it's adult stuff - which I haven't really done yet. So far I do mainly non-nude foot fetish work, and even then they want at least $100 an hour, and they set a minimum of 3 hours at that rate.

I just did this set:
http://www.shoekittens.com/free/brooke_dee/
http://www.shoekittens.com/free/brooke_dee2/
http://www.shoekittens.com/free/brooke_dee3/

What I did for that set is I found a client who needed t-shirt models (foulmouthshirts.com) - he paid the models $300 each and I just had them do the foot fetish stuff while they were at my sudio. I've worked for that guy, and with the one models before, so it went rather smoothly, plus besides getting the images, I made $100 for myself as the t-shirt guy paid me a total of $700.

What I really didn't like about suicidegirls.com is that they make you sign something so you can only shoot for them for the next two years.

juggernaut · 2006-03-23, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tortus32

What I really didn't like about suicidegirls.com is that they make you sign something so you can only shoot for them for the next two years.

Sorry man did not see that part. NO FUCKING WAY!!! Not unless they are paying you a salary and getting you the models. Who is going to retain the rights of the images and for how long? Look at some of the old content floating around now and its a niche. I bet those shooters never ever thought they would be able to re-sell that stuff 20 years later. Bottom line is you need to protect yourself and YOUR MODELS!!. Fact is this site needs you more then you need them. They like your work, they contacted you. You make a living doing weddings and thats what life is about. Putting food in your mouth an clothes on your back. try and get them to relax on their requirements and then let them know you will talk business. If not then like everything else, something is fucked up and I would walk away..

2006-03-23, 10:21 AM	#1
emmanuelle 0100011101100101011001010 1101011001000000100001101 1010000110100101100011 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,441	Take the $200 and run. Few people are interested in a 300 pic set, other than to weed out the best 100 of the bunch. Furthermore, $200 is a good deal (for the photographer) for a softcore set. The business is much different than it was a few years ago, or even 2 years ago. Digital SLR's have broken the $1000 threshold, and everybody fancies themself a photographer these days. While not disparging your work, (as you know, I truly appreciate your style); technically excellent photos are not required for the net, and rarely recognized. We have access to technically perfect and more artistic photographers, but prefer to shoot at a slightly less quality in the name of efficiency. For $150-$200 I can shoot a model for 4 hours, and get 20 sets of solo content, including toys plus about 40 minutes of video. Interestingly enough, our most artistic (and technically proficient) content is the least popular with our members. Webmasters love it, but it's a tough sell.