Arylia Gallery Builder v2.0

[PR_Tom]

"Acquire Images Using Various Methods
Such as sponsor FHG (free hosted gallery), zip file (either locally from your computer or remotely from your sponsor's website), image sets on your server, and even fusker-style URLS for those hard-to-get sets."


I guess that I think it looks decent, but there is absolutely no (good) reason to include functions that aquire images from anywhere but the local hard drive, or password protected server on the machine where the script resides.

[Doctor Sticky]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

"Acquire Images Using Various Methods
Such as sponsor FHG (free hosted gallery), zip file (either locally from your computer or remotely from your sponsor's website), image sets on your server, and even fusker-style URLS for those hard-to-get sets."


I guess that I think it looks decent, but there is absolutely no (good) reason to include functions that aquire images from anywhere but the local hard drive, or password protected server on the machine where the script resides.

Hi PR_Tom,

We certainly don't condone ripping galleries of fellow webmasters, however, acquiring images from a sponsor FHG is no different than downloading their content ZIP file because they both contain the same images. Arylia also allows for building galleries directly from zip files, so wether you grab the images from the sponsor FHG, or from the downloaded zip file, the results will still be the same.

The good reason for allowing this is quick and easy building of galleries from FHGs your sponsors provide to your for promotion.

We also discourage promoting sponsors other than the owner of the content you are displaying in your gallery - as stated in our EULA

Originally Posted by Arylia EULA

You agree to use the software in all manners fitting the terms and rules of your individual sponsors. Specifically meaning that you will only rip (acquire) images from a sponsor's FHG (free hosted gallery) with intent to promote that sponsor with the acquired images. MoltenSoft vehemently discourages cross-promotion of sponsors with unmatched content.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Doctor Sticky

...acquiring images from a sponsor FHG is no different than downloading their content ZIP file because they both contain the same images. Arylia also allows for building galleries directly from zip files, so wether you grab the images from the sponsor FHG, or from the downloaded zip file, the results will still be the same...

If your thought process is that the images on the galleries are the same as the images in the zips, then your argument falls short, because there's no need for the program to grab the pics from the galleries, since they are in the zips.

I almost equate this to selling bongs with stickers on them that read "For Tobacco Use Only"

[kryptx]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

If your thought process is that the images on the galleries are the same as the images in the zips, then your argument falls short, because there's no need for the program to grab the pics from the galleries, since they are in the zips.

I almost equate this to selling bongs with stickers on them that read "For Tobacco Use Only"

No disrespect to you, greenguy. You run a tight ship here and it looks like you've been very successful. But if you're not sure what Doctor Sticky's thought process is, you must not have read the thread very closely. That's fine -- you probably just skimmed it, but he's made his thought process(es) abundantly clear.

Yes, in his first post he said "they both contain the same images". And for many sponsors (danni and twistys come to mind) this is the case. So why would I rip from the FHG instead of using the zip? Maybe the FHG contains fewer images and those are the ones I want (twistys zips are massive). Maybe they are ordered differently and I want to use the FHG order. Maybe I want to check out the content before I make my own gallery, and after I've done that, I don't want to have to go find the zip with those exact images (that's a pain in the ass sometimes on dannicash). The point is that an honest webmaster might want to do this, and it'd be perfectly ethical.

Second:

Originally Posted by Doctor Sticky

There are a lot of sponsors who do allow images in their FHGs to be used for promotion on their affiliate's websites.

The fact that PimpRoll and AdultElite (and some other sponsors) do not allow this is not a very good reason to exclude useful functionality from a gallery script.

Third:

Originally Posted by Doctor Sticky

There are dozens of sponsors which provide to their affiliates usernames and passwords for the actual members section of the paysite and the only way to acquire that content without a script like this is your right mouse button and a great deal of patience.

And last (emphasis mine):

Originally Posted by Doctor Sticky

To address the problem more directly, consider a webmaster who does not have a script like this. He can either act in accordance with his sponsors' rules and grab a zip file, unpack it, upload it, and make a gallery in HTML, or he can illegitimately take some content from an FHG or a members' area, upload it, and make a gallery in HTML. The amount of time required to do these two tasks is comparable and the webmaster may very well choose either one, but he knows ahead of time that one is legitimate, while the other might very well cause his account to be terminated.

Now consider a webmaster who does have this script or one like it. Like before, he can either acquire images from a zip file or he can break the rules and snag them from somewhere else. Neither one is particularly difficult, but one of them is allowed and the other isn't. Nothing really changes here -- it still takes the same amount of effort to create the gallery either way and the only difference is ethics.

So I guess I really fail to see how the script can encourage its users to break the rules when it simplifies legitimate gallery creation just as much as it facilitates unethical conduct, and the features which do make "breaking the rules" easier also in many cases simplify acceptable behavior.

Finally, this hasn't been brought up, but often a webmaster has more than one site. I personally have used arylia to copy the content from one site to another, and put it into my new gallery template. If they're on the same server it could be done by retrieving from a local folder, but if they're not, why should I have to copy all of the files myself or repeat the work I've already done? Arylia does it just as easily as it'll do anything else. That saves me time, allowing me to spend more time promoting my sponsors and less time manipulating image and HTML files.