Arylia Gallery Builder v2.0

[Toby]

And just what percentage of your customers do you think actually read the EULA? I'd guess it's less than 10%.

I have to agree with Tom, if the software has the feature available then it will be used and abused. There's no valid reason for that function to be there other than to facilitate unethical if not illegal conduct on the part of affiliates.

[Doctor Sticky]

Guys,

Thanks for the concern. We created the script the way we did because we are adult webmasters ourselves and we want to be able to acquire and post content rapidly on our own sites. We agree that very few webmasters who purchase the script will read the EULA, however placing the message where we did, in the terms we did, is as much warning as we can reasonably offer. There are dozens of sponsors which provide to their affiliates usernames and passwords for the actual members section of the paysite and the only way to acquire that content without a script like this is your right mouse button and a great deal of patience. So rest assured that there is a legitimate purpose for this feature being in place.

To address the problem more directly, consider a webmaster who does not have a script like this. He can either act in accordance with his sponsors' rules and grab a zip file, unpack it, upload it, and make a gallery in HTML, or he can illegitimately take some content from an FHG or a members' area, upload it, and make a gallery in HTML. The amount of time required to do these two tasks is comparable and the webmaster may very well choose either one, but he knows ahead of time that one is legitimate, while the other might very well cause his account to be terminated.

Now consider a webmaster who does have this script or one like it. Like before, he can either acquire images from a zip file or he can break the rules and snag them from somewhere else. Neither one is particularly difficult, but one of them is allowed and the other isn't. Nothing really changes here -- it still takes the same amount of effort to create the gallery either way and the only difference is ethics.

So I guess I really fail to see how the script can encourage its users to break the rules when it simplifies legitimate gallery creation just as much as it facilitates unethical conduct, and the features which do make "breaking the rules" easier also in many cases simplify acceptable behavior.

Again, there are pleny of sponsors who allow affiliates to use images from FHGs in galleries on their websites. There is nothing unethical or illegal about that. It is up to the individual webmaster to know which images they have the rights to post.

[Surfn]

I have to agree with Tom. The only right way to use a tool is from data in the program or on your computer. Any kind of harvesting is subject to abuse and there is a greater negative potential then positive.

If we lived in a perfect world everyone would read and abide by rules. Unfortunately this just isn't true at this time.

[Doctor Sticky]

Originally Posted by Surfn

The only right way to use a tool is from data in the program or on your computer. Any kind of harvesting is subject to abuse and there is a greater negative potential then positive

There are plenty of sponsors - especially in the babe blog market that our script was created for - that do not offer free content for affiliates to download and use. They only offer FHGs, and they give their affiliates the right to use the images on their own website in order to promote the content.

Our software and the relationship with the warnings supplied in the EULA are no different than any other company. Most software could be used to perform illegal activities when the terms of the EULA the customer agreed upon are broken.

Originally Posted by Greenguy

If your thought process is that the images on the galleries are the same as the images in the zips, then your argument falls short, because there's no need for the program to grab the pics from the galleries, since they are in the zips.

If every sponsor provided zips for their galleries you would be correct, but in reality they don't. There are a lot of sponsors who only offer FHGs - and who give their affiliates the rights to use the images on their website. If we did not include this function in the script the users would not be able to build a gallery based on these sponsors' content.

Originally Posted by Greenguy

I almost equate this to selling bongs with stickers on them that read "For Tobacco Use Only"

Yet, that's still perfectly legal.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Doctor Sticky

...Yet, that's still perfectly legal.

Tell that to Tommy Chong

I could really give 2 shits what this script does, because I'm a big fan of not being lazy & making my sites by hand. Cookie cutter template sites suck ass IMHO.

But the being lazy part is a good example - let's say the sponsor says you can use the images that are on their galleries & they do not have them in a zip file - how lazy are you that you can't go & save 15-20 pics by hand?

[Doctor Sticky]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

But the being lazy part is a good example - let's say the sponsor says you can use the images that are on their galleries & they do not have them in a zip file - how lazy are you that you can't go & save 15-20 pics by hand?

So you prefer walking to the store instead of driving? Do you calculate things on scratch paper instead of using a calculator? I bet you don't even own a microwave.

You are definitely an exception if that is your arguement.

Point being, why would you want to do something manually when you have a tool that can do the exact same thing and save you tons of time... time to use on other things that do have to be done manually like networking with partners and promoting your site.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Doctor Sticky

So you prefer walking to the store instead of driving? Do you calculate things on scratch paper instead of using a calculator? I bet you don't even own a microwave.

You are definitely an exception if that is your arguement.

Point being, why would you want to do something manually when you have a tool that can do the exact same thing and save you tons of time... time to use on other things that do have to be done manually like networking with partners and promoting your site.

If it took me a minute to walk to the store, then yes, I'd walk.

You're talking about taking a plane to a store that's 2 blocks away.

My point - and the point of others in this thread - is that regardless of what good you think it can be used for, the evil that it will be used for outweighs it.

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Tell that to Tommy Chong

I could really give 2 shits what this script does, because I'm a big fan of not being lazy & making my sites by hand. Cookie cutter template sites suck ass IMHO.

But the being lazy part is a good example - let's say the sponsor says you can use the images that are on their galleries & they do not have them in a zip file - how lazy are you that you can't go & save 15-20 pics by hand?

My thoughts exactly.

If there were any useful shortcuts everyone would already be using them. Depending a script to do what you should be easily doing without it is ludicrous to say the least.

I could care less who uses it for their hubs or their sites. But you better believe I can spot a gallery made with a gallery maker every time. They will not get accepted at any of my traffic pumps.

[Doctor Sticky]

Originally Posted by Surfn

I could care less who uses it for their hubs or their sites. But you better believe I can spot a gallery made with a gallery maker every time. They will not get accepted at any of my traffic pumps.

Here are three galleries I made in under a minute using Arylia. Two of them have been plugged on worldsex, and one on the hun:

http://www.twistyswomen.com/gallerie...lesbian_mania/
http://www.twistyswomen.com/gallerie...es_having_fun/
http://www.freegalleryhome.com/galle...lack_lingerie/

Arylia is definitely not your run-of-the-mill cookie cutter template gallery building program. It's much more powerful. You can setup ANY template to work.

[kryptx]

Originally Posted by surfn

But you better believe I can spot a gallery made with a gallery maker every time. They will not get accepted at any of my traffic pumps.

That makes me wonder what sort of galleries you approve, because I can't recall ever having seen a gallery that this script couldn't have made.

Arylia doesn't make your template for you. Yes, sample templates are included with the script, but I don't think anybody uses them. And you can make a different template for each gallery if that's how you want to spend your time. What it does is acquire all of the images (which we've discussed now at length), prune them if there are too many or duplicate if there are too few, rename them all for SEO, generate all of the appropriate thumbnails, link them to the images, build html pages for each (if you choose that option), and place the title, description, linked text and banners, and any other text strings you want on your gallery according to where you put them on the template.

[Surfn]

I approve sites and galleries built by webmasters that actually put an effort into their work and take the time to submit by hand. I doubt that you can understand that.

I'm done here since you two seem to want to argue and could care less about anyone's point of view than you own. Good luck and have a nice day