Metal Cash (you have to read it from bottom to top)

[CaptainObvious]

You guys ever known somebody who owns more than one site?

I know its hard to believe but some people do have a few sites other than the one in their account.

I was trying to cover all my bases with Green Guy and I got him everything he needed.

Metal Cash didn't send out the generic email because the 123 Program isn't officially launched yet, I'm specifically hitting webmasters that are already part of the program and sending traffic to get first shot at these sites.

Green Guy was rude to me for no reason, so I was rude to him.

Edit for typo

[Boogie]

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

You guys ever known somebody who owns more than one site?

I know its hard to believe but some people do have a few sites other than the one in their account.

I was trying to cover all my bases with Green Guy and I got him everything he needed.

Metal Cash didn't send out the generic email because the 123 Program isn't officially launched yet, I'm specifically hitting webmasters that are already part of the program and sending traffic to get first shot at these sites.

Green Guy was rude to me for no reason, so I was rude to him.

Edit for typo

Dude, look. if you knew much about GG at all you'd known the man is very anti-gallery. he is one of the most outspoken people in the industry about promoting galleries and favors freesites. IT makes you look like you have no clue what you're doing when you approach him on a topic like this.

Its like approaching a christian fundamentalist about getting an abortion for his daughter or a pamela anderson abou buying cheap steak (she's a vegetarian).

we're siding with greenguy because he's synonamous with anti-gallery and pro free site.

if you'd read his board or looked at his major sites or even talked to him first, instead of trying to shove galleries he doesnt want down his throat, you'd ave seen what is an 'obvious" mistake.

[Josh@MetalCash]

Originally Posted by Boogie

Dude, look. if you knew much about GG at all you'd known the man is very anti-gallery. he is one of the most outspoken people in the industry about promoting galleries and favors freesites. IT makes you look like you have no clue what you're doing when you approach him on a topic like this.

Its like approaching a christian fundamentalist about getting an abortion for his daughter or a pamela anderson abou buying cheap steak (she's a vegetarian).

we're siding with greenguy because he's synonamous with anti-gallery and pro free site.

if you'd read his board or looked at his major sites or even talked to him first, instead of trying to shove galleries he doesnt want down his throat, you'd ave seen what is an 'obvious" mistake.

Please see post 21 before you post, or actually read the first post posted by GreenGuy.

You would see;

http://www.metalcash.com/co/greenguy.txt

Paysite links (like the links he has made sales with currently NOT galleries).

[Boogie]

Originally Posted by Josh@MetalCash

Please see post 21 before you post, or actually read the first post posted by GreenGuy.

You would see;

http://www.metalcash.com/co/greenguy.txt

Paysite links (like the links he has made sales with currently NOT galleries).

post 21 was posted as I was typing out my response, josh, so please calm down.

irregardless, read the conversation from back to front.


having some background in the telemarketing industry (i know a guy who did it for a living) its obvious what was going on here

Caller: want to buy _____?
greenguy: nope
caller: standard rebuttal
greenguy: no thanks
caller: second rebuttal.


and so forth. its annoying, bad, telemarketing bullshit. and if the rep was informed at all he'd known that starting off talking about galleries is fucking stupid and makes him look like an ass.

and the worst of it is that the rep becomes beligerant after the third rebuttal. calls greenguy an asshole. its pathetic and stupid and its not a great way to run a company.

the only thing that was "GFY" was the messages being shot towards greenguy:

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:44 PM
From : Captain Obvious
don't be an asshole

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:44 PM
To : Greenguy
yeah - seems really fucking stupid to go from webmaster to webmaster when you
can just send out a newsletter & be done with it

nothing wrong with what greenguy said here. no reason to call him an asshole. after the 2nd rebuttal MOST people on the recieving end start getting upset, which is why MOST states its only legal to rebutt 1 time.

[Josh@MetalCash]

Originally Posted by Boogie

nothing wrong with what greenguy said here. no reason to call him an asshole. after the 2nd rebuttal MOST people on the recieving end start getting upset, which is why MOST states its only legal to rebutt 1 time.

Again Boogie, please read before you start posting.

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:40 PM
From : Captain Obvious
its just not fully released yet, we've done lots of testing we're just
finishing building the tools webmasters need

Sent at 10:40PM

That's before GreenGuy flipped out 4 minutes later saying;

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:44 PM
To : Greenguy
yeah - seems really fucking stupid to go from webmaster to webmaster when you can just send out a newsletter & be done with it

Personally I see something very wrong with that actually, GreenGuy flipping out on Captain instead of reading and seeing that the 123 Program isn't launched yet and Captain is infact going webmaster to webmaster giving them a chance to make cash with this.

[Boogie]

Originally Posted by Josh@MetalCash

Again Boogie, please read before you start posting.

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:40 PM
From : Captain Obvious
its just not fully released yet, we've done lots of testing we're just
finishing building the tools webmasters need

Sent at 10:40PM

That's before GreenGuy flipped out 4 minutes later saying;

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:44 PM
To : Greenguy
yeah - seems really fucking stupid to go from webmaster to webmaster when you can just send out a newsletter & be done with it

Personally I see something very wrong with that actually, GreenGuy flipping out on Captain instead of reading and seeing that the 123 Program isn't launched yet and Captain is infact going webmaster to webmaster giving them a chance to make cash with this.

well josh, that's your opinion.

and I bet that the idiot who calls my house during dinner to sell me some great money saving oppurtunity has the same fucking opinion.

but if the reciever of the call or the recieiver of the ICQ doesnt want the fucking spam bullshit taking up his time a quick apology from the rep isnt so much to be expected is it?

but instead you folks seem to think its a better idea to call him an asshole.

the guy you were just appealing to to help make you money is now the guy you're screaming at.

and then you still dont see anything wrong with that, then i'm not going to be able to convince you otherwise. have a great day but just realize that most people arent going to see it your way, or the telemarkerters way.

[Surfn]

If it were me I would pull all the metal cash links GG

[Ramster]

Originally Posted by Josh@MetalCash

That's before GreenGuy flipped out 4 minutes later saying;

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:44 PM
To : Greenguy
yeah - seems really fucking stupid to go from webmaster to webmaster when you can just send out a newsletter & be done with it

Personally I see something very wrong with that actually, GreenGuy flipping out on Captain instead of reading and seeing that the 123 Program isn't launched yet and Captain is infact going webmaster to webmaster giving them a chance to make cash with this.

The PROBLEM is your rep's response to that was "don't be an asshole"

THAT is the problem I have. Right away your rep is calling a valued affiliate (all affiliates are valuable IMO) an asshole. Don't you think there's a problem with that??????????????

If Greenguy said hey you're an asshole for contacting me, fuck off Captain still should just say sorry you feel that way. Good bye. Calling affiliates an asshole should NEVER EVER be an okay thing to do.

[CaptainObvious]

Originally Posted by Boogie

Dude, look. if you knew much about GG at all you'd known the man is very anti-gallery. he is one of the most outspoken people in the industry about promoting galleries and favors freesites. IT makes you look like you have no clue what you're doing when you approach him on a topic like this.

Its like approaching a christian fundamentalist about getting an abortion for his daughter or a pamela anderson abou buying cheap steak (she's a vegetarian).

we're siding with greenguy because he's synonamous with anti-gallery and pro free site.

if you'd read his board or looked at his major sites or even talked to him first, instead of trying to shove galleries he doesnt want down his throat, you'd ave seen what is an 'obvious" mistake.

You're so clever with the 'obvious' mistake line.

If you would read into it I said if he doesn't like galleries I have actual links for him - I didn't force greenguy to look at galleries, I didn't tell him I have nothing for you but galleries, I asked if he wanted galleries, he said no so I gave him links.

It seems quite 'obvious' that I didn't do anything offensive to him before he said I was as annoying as a fucking telemarketer.

It's 'obvious' that everybody here is going to continue to side with greenguy because its 'obviously' his board.

Rediculous guys.

[Boogie]

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

You're so clever with the 'obvious' mistake line.

If you would read into it I said if he doesn't like galleries I have actual links for him - I didn't force greenguy to look at galleries, I didn't tell him I have nothing for you but galleries, I asked if he wanted galleries, he said no so I gave him links.

It seems quite 'obvious' that I didn't do anything offensive to him before he said I was as annoying as a fucking telemarketer.

It's 'obvious' that everybody here is going to continue to side with greenguy because its 'obviously' his board.

Rediculous guys.

to continue to fall back on the 'its gg's board so everyone will side with him' argument is ludicrious and it shows the major character flaw that you exhibitied in your original conversation. You dont think you can be wrong.

If you'd stop and think about it you could and can see why greenguy got pissed off and instead of realizing it and apologizing for it you grasp for any reason to continue to believe you were right.

Our galleries rock if you dont want them you're wrong.

I called you an asshole if peole say its unfair its cause its your board.

You think you cant be wrong and its impossible to argue with someoen like that, but let me say that you certainly have little to no place in the customer service field with that kind of attitude.

the customer is always right.
you are always wrong if the customer thinks you are.
greenguy thinks you are.
piss off.

[CaptainObvious]

Originally Posted by Boogie

Our galleries rock if you dont want them you're wrong.

Show me this in my conversation with greenguy.

Greenguy isn't a customer I don't have to go by "the customer is always right" rule - he's an affiliate, signed up to Metal Cash by CHOICE. Entered his contact information on ICQ BY CHOICE.

[Boogie]

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

Show me this in my conversation with greenguy.

Greenguy isn't a customer I don't have to go by "the customer is always right" rule - he's an affiliate, signed up to Metal Cash by CHOICE. Entered his contact information on ICQ BY CHOICE.

cant quote it, you never said it directly, but it seemed like your intent.

but, I can quote you on something else;

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:54 PM
From : Captain Obvious
stay away from my scooter and we won't have any problems

Date : 3/29/2006 Time : 10:54 PM
From : Captain Obvious
you know how to piss of a fat man? take his scooter away

For what its worth I am fat and comments like this arent helping your case.

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

Green Guy was rude to me for no reason, so I was rude to him.

That statement and notice that no apologies are coming from Josh speaks volumes about the professionalism of Metal Cash.

Good luck guys.

[tigermom]

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious -
"Green Guy was rude to me for no reason, so I was rude to him."

I agree with Sir Moby. This does say it all When you work with "the public", be it paying customers, affiliates, or just people, you should never be rude to them, no matter how annoying they are. "He started it", is something I hear from my kids at home (2 and 4 years old) and has no place when you do business.

Sometimes it's not easy sitting on our hands and not typing back what we think. Bottom line though, whether you're a sponsor rep, a moderator on a board or "just a webmaster", it's best not to be rude and aggressive. Just doesn't reflect well on your business.