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[Chop Smith]

Originally Posted by Surfn

I waste too much time picking through hosted stuff that I list then a few months later some of them 302 to something I didn't list. Of the hundreds I have listed over the years there are probably only a few dozen left.

My numbers different from your statement. On HFS Links, I have over 8,500 hfs listed. Thru 03/06/06, when HFSLinks.com was one year old, my bot had reported the following number of errors.

Code: 301 - 39
Code: 302 - 77
Code: 403 - 34
Code: 404 - 58
Code: 503 - 2

As you well know, a bot is not perfect. Many of those 301's and 302's were good links.

As we discussed in OTB two weeks ago, sponsors' hfs' should be treated as a submitted site. They should be reviewed and if the sponsor is a cheat then they should be blacklisted.

In my opinion, less than 2% going bad in a year is not a bad record for sponsors offering hfs'.

Originally Posted by Surfn

Sponsors either need to do it right or don't try. If the title is pussy licking lesbians and one gallery has that content and the next is some gal giving a handjob how does one list it? This one doesn't.

Now, this is a problem. I did not invent the process of taking two fhg and building a free site of them, Since I started doing "fillers" several sponsors have began doing it. Maybe they should have read this. They tend to forget to theme the hfs.

[Linkster]

Chop - I see no problem whatsoever with using two of the hosted galleries for making free sites - however as you say they really need to be on theme and similar - heck most of the real sucessful free site submitters (not hosted) that I know of have been using their own two tgp galleries and putting a main and warning page on them for as long as I can remember - time saver.

As far as hosted free sites going down/redirecting etc - I can definitely think of one sponsor that is famous for doing this on a regular basis - I used to catch them by doing two bot runs daily - just to identify what was going on - and these days even though they had many hundreds of HFS's I only have a few left listed for them. I also know of one sponsor that used to rotate(Im not sure if they still do as I dropped pushing them) the internal pages - you wouldnt catch it on a standard bot run because everything seemed hunky-dorey to the bot

[Chop Smith]

Originally Posted by Linkster

As far as hosted free sites going down/redirecting etc - I can definitely think of one sponsor that is famous for doing this on a regular basis - I used to catch them by doing two bot runs daily - just to identify what was going on - and these days even though they had many hundreds of HFS's I only have a few left listed for them. I also know of one sponsor that used to rotate(Im not sure if they still do as I dropped pushing them) the internal pages - you wouldnt catch it on a standard bot run because everything seemed hunky-dorey to the bot

I understand. As you know I do not list all published hfs' as some are just 'pieces of shit' and if I discover a sponsor cheating with his hfs' I would take him down.

No one seems to have a problem outting bad submitters. Perhaps it is time to start sharing information about sponsor hosted free sites in public. GG and I have talked about a rating system but each batch of releases would have to be rated as you never know who they were out sourced. For a free service, a rating system would be subjective and time consuming.

Originally Posted by Surfn

As I said I have deleted thousands for changing their content and for going 404. I'm not going to argue who is right or wrong and what numbers are correct. I know which sponsors have cheated in the past and I don't use them.

I was not trying to start an arguement. If so I would have said: "Generalizations are not worth a damn, including this one." Churchhill, I think.

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by Chop Smith

My numbers different from your statement. On HFS Links, I have over 8,500 hfs listed. Thru 03/06/06, when HFSLinks.com was one year old, my bot had reported the following number of errors.

Code: 301 - 39
Code: 302 - 77
Code: 403 - 34
Code: 404 - 58
Code: 503 - 2

As you well know, a bot is not perfect. Many of those 301's and 302's were good links.

As we discussed in OTB two weeks ago, sponsors' hfs' should be treated as a submitted site. They should be reviewed and if the sponsor is a cheat then they should be blacklisted.

In my opinion, less than 2% going bad in a year is not a bad record for sponsors offering hfs'.



Now, this is a problem. I did not invent the process of taking two fhg and building a free site of them, Since I started doing "fillers" several sponsors have began doing it. Maybe they should have read this. They tend to forget to theme the hfs.

As I said I have deleted thousands for changing their content and for going 404. I'm not going to argue who is right or wrong and what numbers are correct. I know which sponsors have cheated in the past and I don't use them.

I have nothing more to say than for each webmasters to keep an eye on all his hosted stuff just like his submitted stuff.