Affiliate program growth

[LB]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

LB - you're painting with a very big brush on this. I am emotionally attached in a ridiculous manner to a lot of my sites (this board included) and I have a ton of great business relationships.

I think the main points on all this is that you don't have to have NATS or MPA or whatever to run a successful business AND having one of them does not mean that your program is better than one that uses the CC processor's tools.

I can accept that. I was just voicing my on topic opinion ... I didn't realise I would get lynchmobbed for it.

[karomesis]

I have had zero experience with running a program thus far in my 4 months in the biz, but I am deeply curious why some of the veterans here are not particularly fond of nats and other recently introduced processors.|confused|


So the question begs itself, what are the direct comparisons between the old standbyes and the new processors?

And what data is there to qualify the answers? (i.e. proof)

[Toby]

Originally Posted by karomesis

...I am deeply curious why some of the veterans here are not particularly fond of nats and other recently introduced processors.|confused|

First a little clarification. NATS, MPA3, etc are not processors, they are comprehensive sponsor program scripts, most of which are capable of utilizing multiple processors.

The biggest issue that I have with NATS and MPA3 is that the affiliate admin isn't the most user friendly in some areas. Retrieving hosted galleries and hosted free sites can be a major hassle if you want more than one or two at a time. Stats are pretty good, but could be better. I'm sure others will have a few things to add.

[hollywood376]

Originally Posted by Toby

The biggest issue that I have with NATS and MPA3 is that the affiliate admin isn't the most user friendly in some areas. Retrieving hosted galleries and hosted free sites can be a major hassle if you want more than one or two at a time. Stats are pretty good, but could be better. I'm sure others will have a few things to add.

If I'm not mistaken, you can come in and create a link dump of every gallery from within NATS. I don't know if I have this feature turned on or not, as I am still loading the program with galleries, but I am certain that you can do this. You just choose the separator,then download the dump.

[Useless]

My biggest problem with NATS, or any other similar program, is the fact that I don't have an ounce of trust in most of you rotten skimming cocksuckers who employ it. A program is not evil. The bastards who use it to cheat their affiliates very well may be.

And the first one of you fucks who replies with "do you have any proof" is going to recieve a solid FUCK YOU in return. I have a voodoo doll and some rusty pins here waiting for you, wise ass.

I'd LOVE to see someone create a simple cascading script which doesn't allow the user to do a damn thing with it. No tampering with cookie expirations or any of that shit. It doesn't need to create or record stats. I'll gladly use the processors' stats. I prefer getting a singlecheck from processor - I DON'T WANT YOU FUCKING WITH MY MONEY! All a cascading program needs to do is cascade. That's all. Fuck your bells and whistles and indecipherable linking structure.

And here's another thing, now that I'm pissed and ranting for no obvious reason - why is it that CCBill can send thousands and thousands of small checks out every single fucking week with a minimum payout of only $25, but sponsors, who send out a lot fewer checks, demand a minimum payout of $100 - and then only want to send checks out once or twice a month. Rotten, no good, cheap ass, lazy fucks. That's what you are! And how the hell am I supposed to reach a $100 payout now that my conversions have mysteriously plummeted ever since you installed that new cascading solution? Which you, by the way, all but guaranteed would INCREASE MY GODDAMNED CONVERSIONS. You simple-minded lying fucks should be fed HIV-infected maggots for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Thank you for your time.
Enjoy your weekend. Drive safe.

[JustRobert]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

why is it that CCBill can send thousands and thousands of small checks out every single fucking week with a minimum payout of only $25, but sponsors, who send out a lot fewer checks, demand a minimum payout of $100

This is the #1 reason I am reluctant to sign up with a "new" program using nats.

Lets not forget that most of them charge a $3 service charge as well. If I am willing to be hit with that charge, for all nats program owners, give me the option of being paid at $25 this way I only need a couple of sales from your program before I get paid. This would make it alot easier for me to sign up with you and probably some others as well. More affiliates pushing your sites is bound to help grow your program.

Here is one thing I like about CCbill stats that I have not found yet with nats programs. I am able to see who may rebill in next weeks pay period and how long they have rebilled before this period. Next week I have one thats rebilled for over 1 year. I love that person and wish there was more like them. This gives me a small forecast of next weeks earnings. I like that.

[lorsha]

Originally Posted by JustRobert

Next week I have one thats rebilled for over 1 year. I love that person and wish there was more like them.

Those are the best Robert!

I still have 5 rebills from my very first month my members area went live; 9/2001 ( Just sold VHS videos for my first year + ).

I looked up their usernames. 3 of them are active every now and then, but the other 2 have not logged on in the past year. Guess my old original price of $16.95/mo doesn't shock them on their CC statements.

[Kenny B!]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

My biggest problem with NATS, or any other similar program, is the fact that I don't have an ounce of trust in most of you rotten skimming cocksuckers who employ it. A program is not evil. The bastards who use it to cheat their affiliates very well may be.

And the first one of you fucks who replies with "do you have any proof" is going to recieve a solid FUCK YOU in return. I have a voodoo doll and some rusty pins here waiting for you, wise ass.

I'd LOVE to see someone create a simple cascading script which doesn't allow the user to do a damn thing with it. No tampering with cookie expirations or any of that shit. It doesn't need to create or record stats. I'll gladly use the processors' stats. I prefer getting a singlecheck from processor - I DON'T WANT YOU FUCKING WITH MY MONEY! All a cascading program needs to do is cascade. That's all. Fuck your bells and whistles and indecipherable linking structure.

And here's another thing, now that I'm pissed and ranting for no obvious reason - why is it that CCBill can send thousands and thousands of small checks out every single fucking week with a minimum payout of only $25, but sponsors, who send out a lot fewer checks, demand a minimum payout of $100 - and then only want to send checks out once or twice a month. Rotten, no good, cheap ass, lazy fucks. That's what you are! And how the hell am I supposed to reach a $100 payout now that my conversions have mysteriously plummeted ever since you installed that new cascading solution? Which you, by the way, all but guaranteed would INCREASE MY GODDAMNED CONVERSIONS. You simple-minded lying fucks should be fed HIV-infected maggots for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Thank you for your time.
Enjoy your weekend. Drive safe.

UW please don't hold back tell us how you really feel!

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Kenny B!

UW please don't hold back tell us how you really feel!

I would, but I tend to have difficulty expressing myself adequately.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by LB

I can accept that. I was just voicing my on topic opinion ... I didn't realise I would get lynchmobbed for it.

I think you're getting bashed a bit because you opinion seems to be that unless you use NATS or MPA or whatever, your program is not as legit/good as those that do.

I think everyone would take a program that converts/retains & uses CCBill over one that doesn't convert/retain & uses the fancy stuff