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Old 2006-06-18, 01:15 PM   #1
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I don't follow soccer at all, so can someone please explain to me why you can't screen the goalie? USA had a goal called back yesterday because the goalie's view was obstructed by a USA player that was 20-30 feet away from him? WTF is that about?
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Old 2006-06-18, 02:52 PM   #2
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I don't follow soccer at all, so can someone please explain to me why you can't screen the goalie? USA had a goal called back yesterday because the goalie's view was obstructed by a USA player that was 20-30 feet away from him? WTF is that about?
You can screen the goalie all you want but that player was offsides.

Think about hockey where the puck has to cross the blue line before any players. It's similar in soccer but either the ball or 2 players from the opposing team have to be between you and the goal line.

Basically what happened was that guy ran in front of all the defenders and the ball so the only thing between him and the goal line was 1 player, the goalie.

Without offsides each team would just have one guy stand by the opposing teams goal and wait for a long kick.

This is also why Eddie Pope was running away from his goal instead of marking that guy that scored for Italy. For some reason he thought the defense was going to play an "offsides trap". When this happens basically all the defense moves forward and traps the other team in the offside spot.
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Old 2006-06-19, 06:41 AM   #3
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You can screen the goalie all you want but that player was offsides.

Think about hockey where the puck has to cross the blue line before any players. It's similar in soccer but either the ball or 2 players from the opposing team have to be between you and the goal line.

Basically what happened was that guy ran in front of all the defenders and the ball so the only thing between him and the goal line was 1 player, the goalie.

Without offsides each team would just have one guy stand by the opposing teams goal and wait for a long kick.

This is also why Eddie Pope was running away from his goal instead of marking that guy that scored for Italy. For some reason he thought the defense was going to play an "offsides trap". When this happens basically all the defense moves forward and traps the other team in the offside spot.
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Some additions: So at least one field player and the goalie of the other team have to be between you and the goal line when the ball leaves the foot/head of one of your own team players, when a (wrong) pass is given by one of the players of the other team you can't be offside).

And then there's position offside, when a player is standing offside but doesn't interfere the play the play can go on, but in the USA's case McBride interfered the play by screening the goalie while standing offside, so no goal...

And then there are some other strange offside siderules but I won't get in to them right now

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Old 2006-06-18, 04:12 PM   #4
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WTF is that about?
What I really would like to know is why American football is called "American FOOTBALL" and not "American HANDBALL"!?!?!?!

I mean, how many kicks are there and how many passes with the hands are there?

What you call soccer should be called football around the world!
Peneltykick EVERY time you touch it with your hands.....

I like NFL but I just dont get the name.

BTW Brazil sucks this WC!

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Old 2006-06-18, 04:36 PM   #5
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What I really would like to know is why American football is called "American FOOTBALL" and not "American HANDBALL"!?!?!?!

I mean, how many kicks are there and how many passes with the hands are there?

What you call soccer should be called football around the world!
Peneltykick EVERY time you touch it with your hands.....

I like NFL but I just dont get the name.

BTW Brazil sucks this WC!

/Thomas
all i know is "american football" is american football the walking with the ball and kicking asses, soccer is running your ass off on a big field and not allowed to touch the ball with your hands, now last time there was an demostration here at the soccer club of my son of "american football" well he his sold, he canseld his membership of the soccer team, because he wanna go to the "american footbal" club, the guys are big and can kick asses (which is not allowed at soccer games), i have gotten info about it, they will allow boys age of 8, my son will be ten in januar and is a big guy, so he will go on the american football club, i have to say, it was fucking impressieve and cool, how they train and start and play a game, i think its time to get some extra doc insurrance when my son is joining that club, i have to say i was getting a bit confused, because i believe it was fonz who said football, because i only learn that the only game named football is american football, our game is named soccer.
btw the frence are leading the soccer game on this monent with 1-0

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