Senate Proposes Prison for Those Failing to Label Adult Sites

PersignupChuck · 2006-06-18, 05:48 PM

These stories always come up and incite fear and panic in the webmaster community. (as well they should)
I always try to make my point on this issue, it's not about "protecting children." It's about controlling the flow of information. They used to make the same claims about policing underground papers and magazines, music, movies, etc... now it is the internet.
The media incites fear in parents about their children being the prey of the adult community online. They always gloss over simple items, like "why did this child have a computer alone in their bedroom with no blocking software if they can't be responsible with it?" I also rarely see any information relating child predator rates that don't use the internet vs. those that do use the internet. I have seen no evidence that any aspect of the internet is more of a danger to children then child predators that predate the internet.

It's about control and power. For one, the internet is a free flow of information. Because it is global, national laws can't prohibit the freedom of information on the internet. In the past, this vast amount of information and communication was completely controlled. Secondly, the adult community makes so much money - most of it is new money. The class system in the United States greatly frowns upon new money. Even if they can't stop the "new money" they enact these propaganda machines that tear away at the power and prestige of these positions. If something is borderline illegal, you can net millions of dollars and still have less power and prestige then a garbage man or a school teacher.

Don't believe the hype... it's about protecting children as much as NAFTA is about protecting children. If you have a cause and cite it in the name of "protecting children" then anyone who opposes you automatically appears to want to prey on children.
I've had to explain ad nauseum to people that the adult internet does not WANT children involved in it... from an economic stand, it's not feasiible. Children have no credit, no bank accounts, or purchasing power - and they can't be held to a contract. No logical business person in the adult industry wants anything to do with minors. It's a fallacy used to incite fear and panic.

plateman · 2006-06-18, 07:46 PM

its the spammers and scammers that use main stream and disney terms in there urls and pages to weight there pages to be more effective, problem is most of these laws dont apply to the over seas crooks in this biz.... problem is the goverments that house those crooks wont do anything to go after them in there countries....

you could lock up all of the american webmasters that do these bad things and you still wont get rid of it, there has to be a gobal task force to go after those people all over the world and that will never happen....

everyone knows there are major problems on the internet and its a sad thing our laymakers grasp at straws to try and fix it when really they dont know what is going on...

2006-06-18, 07:46 PM	#2
plateman What can I do - I was born this way LOL Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 3,086	its the spammers and scammers that use main stream and disney terms in there urls and pages to weight there pages to be more effective, problem is most of these laws dont apply to the over seas crooks in this biz.... problem is the goverments that house those crooks wont do anything to go after them in there countries.... you could lock up all of the american webmasters that do these bad things and you still wont get rid of it, there has to be a gobal task force to go after those people all over the world and that will never happen.... everyone knows there are major problems on the internet and its a sad thing our laymakers grasp at straws to try and fix it when really they dont know what is going on... __________________ Submit to: Porn O Plenty XXX Links Reality Here

2006-06-18, 05:48 PM	#1
PersignupChuck Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4	These stories always come up and incite fear and panic in the webmaster community. (as well they should) I always try to make my point on this issue, it's not about "protecting children." It's about controlling the flow of information. They used to make the same claims about policing underground papers and magazines, music, movies, etc... now it is the internet. The media incites fear in parents about their children being the prey of the adult community online. They always gloss over simple items, like "why did this child have a computer alone in their bedroom with no blocking software if they can't be responsible with it?" I also rarely see any information relating child predator rates that don't use the internet vs. those that do use the internet. I have seen no evidence that any aspect of the internet is more of a danger to children then child predators that predate the internet. It's about control and power. For one, the internet is a free flow of information. Because it is global, national laws can't prohibit the freedom of information on the internet. In the past, this vast amount of information and communication was completely controlled. Secondly, the adult community makes so much money - most of it is new money. The class system in the United States greatly frowns upon new money. Even if they can't stop the "new money" they enact these propaganda machines that tear away at the power and prestige of these positions. If something is borderline illegal, you can net millions of dollars and still have less power and prestige then a garbage man or a school teacher. Don't believe the hype... it's about protecting children as much as NAFTA is about protecting children. If you have a cause and cite it in the name of "protecting children" then anyone who opposes you automatically appears to want to prey on children. I've had to explain ad nauseum to people that the adult internet does not WANT children involved in it... from an economic stand, it's not feasiible. Children have no credit, no bank accounts, or purchasing power - and they can't be held to a contract. No logical business person in the adult industry wants anything to do with minors. It's a fallacy used to incite fear and panic.