A question for my fellow lady webmasters.

[Simon]

Originally Posted by Cherie

But at some point the right/ability to say NO has to also mean the right/ability to say YES.

YES!

I very much look forward to the day when enough people agree that we've fought for the right to say "no" long enough and turn some of their energies to the fight for the right to say "yes" to more things. Sometimes it seems there is so much attention paid to all the variations of "No Means No" and "Just Say No" that no one is remembering/teaching/learning that "Yes Means Yes" is something of value too.

Okay, I'm back out. I just wanted to say that I'm a big believer in the right to say YES.

[karomesis]

Why is it - if it is not a symptom of psychological or societal damage - that so many humans, male and female, have sexual fantasies involving dominance, submission and violence? Simply because the emotions involved - fear, anger, etc - invoke the exact same physical responses as sexual arousal. To your body, it's the same (or nearly the same) thing, and sex is all about what happens in the body, is it not? I think some of us like our sex spiced with extra helpings of those feelings in the same way as some folks like spicy foods, or get a kick out of skydiving. I also think that the presence of violent fantasy porn - and accompanying educational resources - is an excellent way of dealing with these urges, which might perhaps lead to real crimes if not diverted, or perhaps only to lives of dissatisfaction for those whose cravings go unfulfilled.

I agree.


The fact of the matter is, individual freedom is so valuble, I would stand up for people whos ideas and desires i hate just because their freedom to choose what they wish so long as it harms no one is that important to me.

Okay, I'm back out. I just wanted to say that I'm a big believer in the right to say YES.

I am too.

I stand for absolute freedom for myself and others, it is irrelevant if I like or dislike what they choose to do, what is relevant however, is that it's none of my godamn business.

[susanna]

Originally Posted by karomesis

I stand for absolute freedom for myself and others, it is irrelevant if I like or dislike what they choose to do, what is relevant however, is that it's none of my godamn business.

I have a question for you...those people who say ABSOLUTES like you just did. Is it really appropriate to say every person has absolute freedom? What about the rules of not harming another person (without their consent)? So you are saying a rapist has the individual freedom to rape?

[karomesis]

Susanna, Did you actually read my post?

so long as it harms no one

The condition of freedom was so long as it harmed no one else.

Is it really appropriate to say every person has absolute freedom?

In the future, they will.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by susanna

So you are saying a rapist has the individual freedom to rape?

Don't be a such a sensationalist. You're smarter than that. I have testes and I know that that is not what she meant. Is it really necessary that she lists the things which she wouldn't like absolute freedom for?

1. No freedom to rape.
2. No freedom to dip cats in gasoline and set them ablaze.
3. No more than 10 items in an express lane.

[karomesis]

Is it really necessary that she lists the things which she wouldn't like absolute freedom for?

I think so Useless, from now on, I'll list them in sequential order, from least offensive to most, ending with #3 on your list.The sheer horror of it all, sometimes I wake up in a cold sweat thinking about that lady with 24 items who used change to pay.|shocking|