Path to success?

picXX · 2006-07-02, 02:08 AM

Hard work and consistency works, no matter what you do.

As chop smith said, start with the beginning, learn to obtain traffic first, then make something you can push that traffic too. (IF you cant push traffic to sponsors, how are you suppose to push traffic to you're own paysite? make sense...eh?)

karomesis · 2006-07-02, 10:50 AM

iMan, the question you should ask yourself is where is the market headed, not where it's been. To give you an idea, I firmly believe that cams are the early stages of virtual reality which will peak in a few more decades, people say that the resolution is shit, or how do I use those blurry pics for a FS or gallery, but times are changing fast, and we are just getting warmed up.

The people who made it big, alot of times were in the early stages of a trend, or helped to pioneer that trend themselves. But alas, all good things must come to an end, and porn mediums are no different. Change, adapt, and evolve to suit your surroundings, don't be obsessed with an idea so much that you lose perspective and you may just make a few bucks in this biz.

Good luck

docholly · 2006-07-02, 12:11 PM

1) Attend the Radio show so people here will get used to seeing you around

2) Attend On the Bench to learn how to do things and ask questions in a learning environment

3) Attend the SE chat with Bill to learn how to make the your sites optimized for best possible search terms

4) Build, submit, tweak, forget, go back in 3 months tweak again. (by tweak see where your traffic is from, what key words have lead searchers to your site and make sure you have picked the correct sponsor for your traffic--which you'll learn if you do 1,2 & 3)

5) In mainstream business it take 3-5 years to make a profit if you survive the first 2 years. On the web, time moves much faster so you need to check your results after 3, 6, 9 and 12 months..

6) Do not check your sales every day.. 1 or 2 times a week is enough.. file that under the "watched pot never boils"

7) Promote a site, niche, platform you are familiar and comfortable with. if you don't know anything about trannys, or fat girls, or balloons, then don't promote them until you find out. That doesn't mean you have to "love" it ..it just means you have to educate yourself.

8) Lots of wm on boards inflate how much money they make or how many sales they make etc etc.. whatever they say, divide it by 1/2. Those who really make money will never tell or brag.

9) Approach this like a brick and mortar business. If you work from home, then set yourself a schedule for tasks. 1 hour to do xxxx then break and do something else, but don't be distracted (like me) by spending hours reading boards and 'goofing off' make sure, if you wnat to do this full time, that you devote at least 40 hours per week working in your business rather than on it.

10) join chopscash.com

Chop Smith · 2006-07-02, 12:22 PM

To the lady with phd behind her name:
Even if you did leave your whoring cap on, damn good post and advice. Nice of you, Vitgohippy, Juggernaut and the other to take the time to go into details to show someone the way.

Now who will explain traffic pumps, T1 lines, building dedications, staff, Jazz, hog roast and "place linking code here"? Not to mention introducing him to the Hun and Larry

virgohippy · 2006-07-02, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chop Smith

Now who will explain traffic pumps, T1 lines, building dedications, staff, Jazz, hog roast and "place linking code here"? Not to mention introducing him to the Hun and Larry

I believe that advice costs extra.

docholly · 2006-07-02, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chop Smith

Now who will explain traffic pumps, T1 lines, building dedications, staff, Jazz, hog roast and "place linking code here"? Not to mention introducing him to the Hun and Larry

If my sources are correct, i do believe he has now left the building.

Thank you, Thank you very much.

note to chop: there is an elvis on every corner here in vegas

iMan · 2006-07-04, 02:58 AM

Hey everyone,

Many thanks for all great and helpful replies. I really cannot thank you enough!

I'm sure you get a lot of noobs like me coming in here asking stupid questions, so let me once and for all apologize for that... and to warn you that there's probably more to come

I'm also sure that there is an endless supply newbies coming to this board expecting everyone to show them how to make millions, and when it doesn't work out that way for them within a week or so, they give up.
Despite what the title of the thread may imply, I don't have those expectations at all.
I'm not a complete idiot when it comes to the internets

and I've actually been thinking about and trying to learn how to get into and work in this biz for quite some time now.
So, although my membership at this board is as fresh as they come, I didn't JUST open my eyes.
But respect is earned and I'll try my best to eventually earn all yours

There are some really great replies here and I'm trying to suck it all in even though some of it my be a bit over my head at this point!
I obviously can't go into a dialog about most of your stuff, but for sure, they're all noted!!

So thanks again all of ya, and happy 4th

2006-07-02, 12:11 PM	#3
docholly Nothing funnier than the ridiculous faces you people make mid-coitus Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sin-City USA Posts: 4,973	1) Attend the Radio show so people here will get used to seeing you around 2) Attend On the Bench to learn how to do things and ask questions in a learning environment 3) Attend the SE chat with Bill to learn how to make the your sites optimized for best possible search terms 4) Build, submit, tweak, forget, go back in 3 months tweak again. (by tweak see where your traffic is from, what key words have lead searchers to your site and make sure you have picked the correct sponsor for your traffic--which you'll learn if you do 1,2 & 3) 5) In mainstream business it take 3-5 years to make a profit if you survive the first 2 years. On the web, time moves much faster so you need to check your results after 3, 6, 9 and 12 months.. 6) Do not check your sales every day.. 1 or 2 times a week is enough.. file that under the "watched pot never boils" 7) Promote a site, niche, platform you are familiar and comfortable with. if you don't know anything about trannys, or fat girls, or balloons, then don't promote them until you find out. That doesn't mean you have to "love" it ..it just means you have to educate yourself. 8) Lots of wm on boards inflate how much money they make or how many sales they make etc etc.. whatever they say, divide it by 1/2. Those who really make money will never tell or brag. 9) Approach this like a brick and mortar business. If you work from home, then set yourself a schedule for tasks. 1 hour to do xxxx then break and do something else, but don't be distracted (like me) by spending hours reading boards and 'goofing off' make sure, if you wnat to do this full time, that you devote at least 40 hours per week working in your business rather than on it. 10) join chopscash.com __________________ Support Indie Porn Sites OMGoddess You know you need some Bling!!

2006-07-02, 12:22 PM	#4
Chop Smith Eighteen 'til I Die Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,168	To the lady with phd behind her name: Even if you did leave your whoring cap on, damn good post and advice. Nice of you, Vitgohippy, Juggernaut and the other to take the time to go into details to show someone the way. Now who will explain traffic pumps, T1 lines, building dedications, staff, Jazz, hog roast and "place linking code here"? Not to mention introducing him to the Hun and Larry __________________ Last edited by Chop Smith; 2006-07-02 at 12:35 PM..

2006-07-04, 02:58 AM	#7
iMan Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 101	Hey everyone, Many thanks for all great and helpful replies. I really cannot thank you enough! I'm sure you get a lot of noobs like me coming in here asking stupid questions, so let me once and for all apologize for that... and to warn you that there's probably more to come I'm also sure that there is an endless supply newbies coming to this board expecting everyone to show them how to make millions, and when it doesn't work out that way for them within a week or so, they give up. Despite what the title of the thread may imply, I don't have those expectations at all. I'm not a complete idiot when it comes to the internets and I've actually been thinking about and trying to learn how to get into and work in this biz for quite some time now. So, although my membership at this board is as fresh as they come, I didn't JUST open my eyes. But respect is earned and I'll try my best to eventually earn all yours There are some really great replies here and I'm trying to suck it all in even though some of it my be a bit over my head at this point! I obviously can't go into a dialog about most of your stuff, but for sure, they're all noted!! So thanks again all of ya, and happy 4th __________________

2006-07-02, 02:08 AM	#1
picXX They have the Internet on computers, now? Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 141	Hard work and consistency works, no matter what you do. As chop smith said, start with the beginning, learn to obtain traffic first, then make something you can push that traffic too. (IF you cant push traffic to sponsors, how are you suppose to push traffic to you're own paysite? make sense...eh?)

2006-07-02, 10:50 AM	#2
karomesis Are you sure this is the Sci-Fi Convention? It's full of nerds! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: pepperell,Massachusetts. Posts: 264	iMan, the question you should ask yourself is where is the market headed, not where it's been. To give you an idea, I firmly believe that cams are the early stages of virtual reality which will peak in a few more decades, people say that the resolution is shit, or how do I use those blurry pics for a FS or gallery, but times are changing fast, and we are just getting warmed up. The people who made it big, alot of times were in the early stages of a trend, or helped to pioneer that trend themselves. But alas, all good things must come to an end, and porn mediums are no different. Change, adapt, and evolve to suit your surroundings, don't be obsessed with an idea so much that you lose perspective and you may just make a few bucks in this biz. Good luck