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Free Tips #1 - Avoiding silly mistakes
Free Tips #1
Every day myself and reviewers for Megapornlinks.com, Link-o-rama.com, Jk-Porn.com, cleos, Findpics etc. etc. see 50 to 200 differnet sites while reviewing... So 'we' know how to spot problems with sites. Some times those problems a small and may seem insignificant but seen repetitively over weeks, months you might find a reviewer getting pissed of with those "simple" mistakes... and that may mean your site doesnt get listed! So here are some simple things you can make sure you get right and maybe increase your likelihood of getting listed. Apologies to the people I have used as examples but somone had to be the Guinea Pigs  ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Example #1 Blondes Having Fun http://www.realitypornsite.net/blondes-have-some-fun/ Site looks ok, clear enter link, clear galleries and decent movies... BUT!! The index page - http://www.realitypornsite.net/blondes-have-some-fun/ - lacks a complete body tag Quote:
That makes the text recip to me purple on blue... I am not going to list a site that my recip is not at least visible on. A complete body tag in each page will save you from ever making this error. Quote:
Example #2 Kinky Mature CockSucker http://www.top-adult-sites.com/kinky...ker/index.html Nice looking site  Shame all the graphics and galleries are from the sponsor...  http://top-adult-sites.com/kinky-mat.../gallery1.html http://www.fhpicturegalleries.com/hm/4/?t2/pps=ddave You can do that... without problem when building a site... but dont bloody submit it! You and 20 other webmasters do the same thing.. we get 20 sites that look the same.. and we will reject the lot! My linklist and I would imagine the others too, need a little variety to be "attractive" to surfers, if all sites looked the same no one would come back to us.. and that means we send less traffic. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Example #3 Awesome Latinas http://www.ethnic-babes.net/latina/b...esome_latinas/ Again basically a nice looking site. BUT!................ 1. Incomplete body tag - missing link colors(see example #1) 2. The reason I wanted to use this as an example is the shabby HTML used on the index page. The top three picture images are squashed into that table.. they are not cut to size.. That is just lazy annoying and it slows down your page as the surfer loads a full image instead of a cut-to-size thumbnail.The first front page image is http://www.ethnic-babes.net/latina/b...nas/front1.jpg but it is "squashed" to 210 x 200 IT is actually THIS BIG - http://www.dangerdave.com.au/front1.jpg - 426x640 and 44K - more than TEN times the size it should be! THIS SLOWS YOUR PAGE DOWN and pisses surfers off!(and reviewers!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Example #4 Lesbian Orgasm http://xpornclub.com/lesbianorgasm/index.html Again a decent site... Except - for the banner on this page - http://xpornclub.com/lesbianorgasm/main.html - with the "fake thumbnails" - http://xpornclub.com/lesbianorgasm/450x200_01.jpg It's proably going to be alright 8 times out of 10, but again if you get a reviewer who is tired or seen too many template sites etc.. it's gonna annoy them and they are gonna think about rejecting your site. IMO its better to make sure you get listed than take chances. So not using a banner with "fake thumbnails" may be a better idea. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Example #5 Veronica http://www.pornscripters.com/freesit...orn/index.html Once again a decent site... Except.... the front page link that says - "Watch sluts like Veronica getting fucked good,CLICK NOW" This might, and can, get called a blind link to sponsor. Decieving the surfer, when they are looking for the content on your site, and getting them to click a link to a sponsor wont make you sales.. it will only make your ratio worse... Use text that indicates to the surfer that they are heading for a "pay site" - if they know .... and they still click.. you may just make a sale. An informed surfer is one that buys!------------------------------------------------------------------------- Example #6 Innocent Kiss http://www.babesxrated.com/lesbians/innocent_kiss/ Yet again a decent site.. but silly "mistakes" may cost it a listing. http://www.babesxrated.com/lesbians/..._kiss/main.htm - The Sapphic Erotica Banner ISN'T a banner, its a thumbnail with text on it.. Again it could, and will be called a blind link by some reviewers. ** Remember if reviewers find an "error" on the index page... they rarely look any further into the site and just hit the "reject" button. So if the reviewer got past the first page they would look at the galleries.. and the same "thumbnail banner" is used in the galleries. - http://www.babesxrated.com/lesbians/...kiss/page.html That IS deceptive IMO and again will only make your ratio worse. It will also probably get rejected. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sooooooooooooooo. Be careful when your building, this is a biz, and this is YOUR product. Most of these sites are listable, but many would not make the cut on a day when better sites were around, or if the reviewer had just seen 18 russian template sites, or if the reviewer was tired, or if the reviewer had PMT! Look at your site when it is online. Look at your site at 800x600 and 1024x768 Look at your site like a "newbie surfer" Test the links(use a link checker - Xenu is free and takes 10 secs to run over a free site) Check the thumbs link to the right pics. Make your ENTRANCE CLEAR! Make your GALLERIES CLEAR! Put full body tags in your pages. Don't "squash" images. Don't submit sponsor templates(use them but just dont submit em!) These things will get your site listed. Listed sites get traffic. Traffic = sales. It's that simple! DD ---------- Spelling and typos in this message were checked with a MAC
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2004-01-07, 05:01 AM
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I'm a jaded evil bastard, I wouldn't piss on myself if I was on fire...
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Great post Dave |rasta|
I'll add Site Titles to the mix - It's rather simple really - you make up a three or four word phrase and stick it up the top of your warning page - don't fucking hide it - keep it front and bloody centre - doesn't have to be a pretty graphic - just bold face and obvious - I'm not asking for gobby here people!) Sorry got a bit excited there... And have a bitch session over some other stuff... - Add 5 mins to the process and surf your sites online before submitting them and load every pic (FULLY! Want to shit me to tears? Upload pic #30 in ascii...) - Read your text backwards to look for spelling errors (they stick out that way) calling a MILF a MULF makes you look like a dickhead (probably won't get you rejected though). - Don't try to make round pegs fit into square holes - if you want to promote a big tits site find a girl with big tits - mosquito bites don't count and will likely get you rejected for being an idiot. NB All vitriole in the preceding was for effect only - no offense intended - any similarity to persons alive or dead is purely coincidental
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2004-01-07, 05:02 AM
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again some useful tips by DD
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2004-01-07, 05:05 AM
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I'm a jaded evil bastard, I wouldn't piss on myself if I was on fire...
Join Date: Apr 2003
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And get Netscape 4.7 - it's a unforgiving as fuck and your errors will stick out like dog's balls... great tool for debugging
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I'm a jaded evil bastard, I wouldn't piss on myself if I was on fire...
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If your model is as flat as a board your surfer may well be saying "shit she's hot, but she'd be better if she had a decent rack" - and you say "well look here surfer, the solution is right at hand - here's a site with busty vixens a plenty." You might find that such techniques turn a profit. But for crying out loud - don't bang on about how huge her hooters are and how you'd like to tit-fuck her - you're not fooling anyone (just like a push-up bra). And definately don't call the site "D-cup Busty Amateur" or something similar because you're leaving the reviewer no choice - to put it in big tits to keep with your title makes us look like dickheads too - and we're not too keen on that...
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2004-01-07, 10:45 AM
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You can now put whatever you want in this space :)
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Some great tips here DD !
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2004-01-07, 12:16 PM
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What can I do - I was born this way LOL
Join Date: Oct 2003
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2004-01-07, 01:44 PM
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Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know?
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Europe
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Yep, I learn my lesson DD.
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2004-01-07, 05:19 PM
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WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school?
Join Date: Dec 2003
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I have also learnt my lesson and even changed the text to the better!
I hope guys like it better now  /Forser |
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2004-01-07, 05:49 PM
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Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer?
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Hi DangerDave,
this is a great post! I've started submitting my free sites to LL for 2 weeks now, I've been listed on gg, cleos, jays......but I havn't been listed on your site, Megapornlinks.com, Jk-Porn.com, and Findpics. I'm not really sure why as my site doesn't seem to fall into your examples....if you can, let me know what you think. thanks http://www.coedlovers.com/freesites/...bqp/index.html |
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2004-01-07, 11:13 PM
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No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you
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Veronica http://www.pornscripters.com/freesi...porn/index.html Except.... the front page link that says - "Watch sluts like Veronica getting fucked good,CLICK NOW" This might, and can, get called a blind link to sponsor. What if there are sluts like Veronika getting fucked good inside? I hardly see that as a blind link. Vague? Yes. Deceptive? Hardly. The whole point of freesites is to get traffic to the paysite is it not? I never knew it was about complete 100 percent explanation. I can see your point on it... but i think you're being a bit picky. Besides, in this case, Veronica IS in the paysite. Use text that indicates to the surfer that they are heading for a "pay site" - if they know .... and they still click.. you may just make a sale. An informed surfer is one that buys!" What about those who don't care? Maybe they will want to sign up once they get there? The point of freesites is to get surfers to teh paysite, not tell them it's a paysite. I agree, those who know it's a paysit elink they are clicking will have better rations... but the people who are scared of the word pay may walk away with being told it's a paysite OR if they are just told to find more content like this in the link then once they get there they may realise "damn, these bitches are hot, ok I'll sign up now" "Decieving the surfer, when they are looking for the content on your site, and getting them to click a link to a sponsor wont make you sales.. it will only make your ratio worse..." Again, I see no deception. But if so... How is this different than if someone used bought content to push a site that doesn't have the girl in there at all? So, not to sound like a jackass or nothing,.. but is "Click here and you might or might not find Veronica at our site and it will cost you money to join so only click if you want to pay" a better layed out link? Me and you are in this to make money. Not make surfers know right up front they have to pay before they even have a chance to check anything out. Surfers are not that stupid. they know these things have ads to things that cost money regardless in most cases. man... if you saw my SE sites you would prolly have a heart attack.. I could show you what blind links really are Anywho,, you have alot of good points in your post.. but some I find are a bit overboard. but that is just my opinion and it is YOUR site. You make the rules. Just please remember this.. we are here to make money, not please the 1 percent of surfers who might be less inteligent than a split pea.
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2004-01-08, 02:18 AM
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Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it?
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With respect backoffbitch, linklists in general make the rules to keep surfers happy. A happy surfer may eventually click on a banner and pay for something. It may be a banner belonging to the LL owner or it may be a banner in a site listed there, but either way someone is going to make a sale.
Linklists that are full of sites that jack the surfer around are not going to attract bookmarkers, they will get pissed off in the end and go somewhere else. I dont have a lot of rules on my link sites, but one of them is "Don't try to send the surfer somewhere he doesn't want to go. If you want to fuck around with surfers, use your own traffic" As far as I can tell, the linklists that have the most/best traffic - the ones that I submit all of my free sites too - are the ones that have the strictest rules. |
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2004-01-08, 05:19 AM
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No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you
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"Watch sluts like Veronica getting fucked good,CLICK NOW" is NOT a blnd link. It's telling the surfer to watch veronica getting fucked. That's it. Click Now is the actual advertisement if you wanna get down to it. This is a blind link FREE PICS INSIDE CLICK NOW!! %THUMB% %THUMB %THUMB% FREE SITE WITH PICS CLICK NOW
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2004-01-08, 12:55 PM
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Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos!
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Thanks DD.
Is it okay to resubmit a site that have been declinded for things like the faulty body tag after it has been fixed? |
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2004-01-08, 05:48 PM
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WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school?
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: TX
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Thanks DD and Wazza. I'm taking forever to get back into the LL game, spending hours going over posts here, all in the attempt to be sure I make a good "first" impression. Threads like this are invaluable.
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2004-01-09, 01:46 AM
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Trying is the first step towards failure
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Excellent post DD, really hit the nail on the head
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Nothing funnier than the ridiculous faces you people make mid-coitus
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Can i hear an AMEN!!! I just rejected a site who's sponsors were Ebony and interracial and the models on the site were as white as the snow outside my door!! Not a chocolate holly-pop in the pictures yet his copy was: See this blonde take big black dicks and like it. (i cleaned up the copy cuz i don't use THOSE words)...and if you are a member of this board DO NOT SUBMIT your racist bullshit crap again, i'll ban you for being a bigot. not everyone looking for Interracial content is a member of the KKK and they certainly do not make enough money in their 7.25 an hour jobs in Walfart to afford your sponsor. *climbs off her soap box*... Big tits when they have tiny tittys FAT girls when they can barely pinch an inch Pornstars who really are candidates for corrective facial surgery Centerfolds who come from Dogs - r- us magazine Pantyhose when the girl is in stockings. there is a difference and the biggest, in my opinion, abuser: Teens where the content saw the backside of 21 YEARS ago!! *plops on the bottom step from her soapbox*.. Whew that was a lot of steps!! DD as ALWAYS you have GREAT advice. I actually have a note pad open when i see "tips" or "trix" that i copy and paste, so i can refer back when i'm questioning something. Works very very well. Thanks for starting this. DHG<<<needs more coffee, that climb wore me out |
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2004-01-09, 01:33 PM
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Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button
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Great Post DD, good to see one of my sites wasnt used as an example
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2004-01-09, 04:29 PM
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i fucking told i type to fucking fast wtf
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Great info DD
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2004-01-10, 09:35 AM
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Whatever don't kill ya makes ya stronger...
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Excellent, excellent post..
And I have to add 2 of my pet peeves as a reviewer are GRAMMAR AND SPELLING MISTAKES!! Those errors drive me up the wall!! Sometimes, yes, they are funny..but nonetheless I reject sites with spelling mistakes and obvious grammatical errors.. And sites and galleries with no descriptions..just numbers or kathy002..WTF??? A few simple words describing Kathy getting banged will do.. ok..back to hiding behind the couch  |
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2004-01-12, 10:22 PM
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WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school?
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Good tips it makes everyone life a little easier
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