Hello, Newbie With A Few Questions

JustRobert · 2006-07-31, 04:45 PM

giamann,
Before you go submitting freesites with your recip in them I have a question. Are you running a link list or a gallery list/tgp?

There is a big difference between the two. Plus if it is a tgp/gallery list you could be blacklisted for trying to add in a tgp recip within the link list recips.

For traffic, you could go the PPC route. I have done this myself to help feed my lists. Pricier for sure but traffic is of more quality. Though I must say sometimes the pay off is nice and other times I would have had better luck in a strip bar promoting my sites with that money.

giamann · 2006-07-31, 06:25 PM

Well, I will let you guys check out the site & see what you think it is, I refer to it as a linklist, but others may not, maybe I have my terminology wrong. The concept is something similiar to Marks Book-Marks or AL4A, etc, that type of listing. My site is:

http://www.spunkjunkie.net

I have put a lot of work into this thing over the last month or so, starting to finally get where I want it to be (except for traffic

).

I definitely dont want to get blacklisted with the SE's, what exactly would be the hang-up with a recip back to me if I submit to other lists? Thanks in advance!

Chris

Lemmy · 2006-07-31, 08:01 PM

That's what I call a fake TGP and it's absolutely nuts to maintain one manually (no offense).

If a fake TGP (basically a TGP loaded with sponsor sites not open for submission) is what you want, get a script such as TGP Rotator. I have no experience with it myself, but I hear good things about it.

I don't think it would be a good idea to submit galleries with a recip to a fake TGP on it. Those you submit to want to be grouped with "real" sites.

giamann · 2006-07-31, 08:33 PM

I'm not exactly sure but I think I just got a bashing...
My impression of a TGP was that it is a site with actual thumbnails of galleries posted on the main page. The thumbnail URL leads to the galleries. A link list to me is just that, a list of URL's in text form. So now I have to ask the question:

Does Joe Smut Surfer really care who the galleries are submitted by or who put them there? Just curious.

Thanks in advance!

Chris

Lemmy · 2006-07-31, 08:51 PM

Not even close to a bashing, just friendly advice.

Couple of definitions you need to learn: A TGP (Thumbnail Gallery Post) can also come in the form (quite counter-intuively) of text only TGP. Either way they list galleries (single page, 15-20 pics).

A Linklist lists freesites consisting of 4 pages (warning/main/2 gallery pages).

Joe Smut Surfer doesn't care who made/listed the sites, but the owners of TGPs/Linklists do.

virgohippy · 2006-07-31, 08:51 PM

giamann, you came in honestly. You didn't get bashed. You got honest answers.

A TGP links to galleries. That's pretty much it.

As far as what Joe Smut Surfer wants, TGP's care less about sales then a true link list. TGP's are about traffic. Link Lists are about selling porn.

Submitting to a TGP is about getting traffic.

Accepting submissions from a submitter is about listing galleries to keep the surfer coming back (keeping traffic) and getting traffic from other TGP's listing that gallery.

A true Link List, like Link O Rama, funnels traffic into niches. The surfer is given options, choices, to figure out what they're looking for. This makes sales much easier. Submitters are encouraged to be more sales savvy, and this makes sales much easier. Also, there are search engine bonuses to doing things that way.

EDIT: I did the tags wrong for linking to LOR. Had to fix it.

virgohippy · 2006-07-31, 08:53 PM

You beat me Lemmy.

2006-07-31, 04:45 PM	#1
JustRobert Bow Ties Are Cool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Posts: 9,654	giamann, Before you go submitting freesites with your recip in them I have a question. Are you running a link list or a gallery list/tgp? There is a big difference between the two. Plus if it is a tgp/gallery list you could be blacklisted for trying to add in a tgp recip within the link list recips. For traffic, you could go the PPC route. I have done this myself to help feed my lists. Pricier for sure but traffic is of more quality. Though I must say sometimes the pay off is nice and other times I would have had better luck in a strip bar promoting my sites with that money. __________________ Submit Your Galleries To The Erotic To Naughty Network!

2006-07-31, 08:01 PM	#3
Lemmy You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Next door to a kid with a moped. Posts: 1,492	That's what I call a fake TGP and it's absolutely nuts to maintain one manually (no offense). If a fake TGP (basically a TGP loaded with sponsor sites not open for submission) is what you want, get a script such as TGP Rotator. I have no experience with it myself, but I hear good things about it. I don't think it would be a good idea to submit galleries with a recip to a fake TGP on it. Those you submit to want to be grouped with "real" sites. __________________ BUY MY PORNSITES!

2006-07-31, 08:33 PM	#4
giamann Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6	Ouch! At least You Guys Are Honest I'm not exactly sure but I think I just got a bashing... My impression of a TGP was that it is a site with actual thumbnails of galleries posted on the main page. The thumbnail URL leads to the galleries. A link list to me is just that, a list of URL's in text form. So now I have to ask the question: Does Joe Smut Surfer really care who the galleries are submitted by or who put them there? Just curious. Thanks in advance! Chris

2006-07-31, 08:51 PM	#5
Lemmy You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Next door to a kid with a moped. Posts: 1,492	Not even close to a bashing, just friendly advice. Couple of definitions you need to learn: A TGP (Thumbnail Gallery Post) can also come in the form (quite counter-intuively) of text only TGP. Either way they list galleries (single page, 15-20 pics). A Linklist lists freesites consisting of 4 pages (warning/main/2 gallery pages). Joe Smut Surfer doesn't care who made/listed the sites, but the owners of TGPs/Linklists do. __________________ BUY MY PORNSITES!

2006-07-31, 08:51 PM	#6
virgohippy Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little... push. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,679	giamann, you came in honestly. You didn't get bashed. You got honest answers. A TGP links to galleries. That's pretty much it. As far as what Joe Smut Surfer wants, TGP's care less about sales then a true link list. TGP's are about traffic. Link Lists are about selling porn. Submitting to a TGP is about getting traffic. Accepting submissions from a submitter is about listing galleries to keep the surfer coming back (keeping traffic) and getting traffic from other TGP's listing that gallery. A true Link List, like Link O Rama, funnels traffic into niches. The surfer is given options, choices, to figure out what they're looking for. This makes sales much easier. Submitters are encouraged to be more sales savvy, and this makes sales much easier. Also, there are search engine bonuses to doing things that way. EDIT: I did the tags wrong for linking to LOR. Had to fix it. __________________ ~Warm and Fuzzy. Last edited by virgohippy; 2006-07-31 at 08:55 PM..

2006-07-31, 06:25 PM	#2
giamann Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6	Well, I will let you guys check out the site & see what you think it is, I refer to it as a linklist, but others may not, maybe I have my terminology wrong. The concept is something similiar to Marks Book-Marks or AL4A, etc, that type of listing. My site is: http://www.spunkjunkie.net I have put a lot of work into this thing over the last month or so, starting to finally get where I want it to be (except for traffic ). I definitely dont want to get blacklisted with the SE's, what exactly would be the hang-up with a recip back to me if I submit to other lists? Thanks in advance! Chris

2006-07-31, 08:53 PM	#7
virgohippy Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little... push. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,679	You beat me Lemmy. __________________ ~Warm and Fuzzy.