LOR - my sites have gone

plateman · 2006-08-08, 10:10 AM

site:http:www.japamor.com looks like it isn't banned...

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:...s&ct=clnk&cd=2

plateman · 2006-08-08, 10:33 AM

check this out I had PR 3 and 4 PR free sites on a domain that had a lot of sites and most now have no PR but 2 or 3 - also note I build NO doorways...

My other domain has at the most 30 sites with no doorways and has 3 or 4 sites that have PR all the other has PR gone...

this no PR in google thing is IMO a algo change that fucked up and next update the PR will be back... And IMO PR doesnt mean shit

example my one LL LOST all PR on the category pages BUT ONE....

This is the 4 or 5 straight month that G likes my site more than the month before and when I lost PR on all my category pages weeks ago - MY google listings never wavered

Preacher · 2006-08-08, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by plateman

...example my one LL LOST all PR on the category pages BUT ONE....

Bingo, and he is not alone. This has effected many others.

The category pages are still indexed however, so I don't think that this is a ban: Japamor is indexed.

I know others think that the pr update was messed up and this will self-correct, but my impression is not so optimistic. I fear that these noticeable PR changes are reciprical link penalties that are starting to go into effect, so lists and free-sites with nothing pointed to them but reciprical links -- including hardlink trades -- are getting hit the hardest. Older sites have kept their PR levels perhaps because of bookmarkers links, toplists that have pages pointing to them that have not made a displayable ranking, and perhaps Google is giving a nod to sites that have just been around longer.

It's also been suggested that linklists that are found to be spamming in one way or another are getting marked and sites that have reciprical links to these sites are getting penalized for being in a bad neighborhood.

I guess my point is Japamor is not alone and it will be interesting to see how this effects our business model in the long term.

Useless · 2006-08-08, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Preacher

I guess my point is Japamor is not alone and it will be interesting to see how this effects our business model in the long term.

Won't affect it all. It'll just make it worthless to submit free sites.

Japamor - if it makes you feel any better, I think my listings were dropped too.

docholly · 2006-08-08, 11:52 AM

hmmm i a bit confused by all of this especially the "no pr" part. does this mean we need to let our free sites spin in cyberspace until they get some pr on them? or should we go ahead and submit and there is a time line that after so many days/weeks/months if no pr shows up, we'll be delisted? Does this override the "listing forever" post of a few months back?

did i mention i'm on drugs and cannot be trusted with a keyboard these days?

Useless · 2006-08-08, 12:15 PM

Are these seem changes/dropped listings happening at Smut Gremlins? I can't seem to find my sites there either.

plateman · 2006-08-08, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Are these seem changes/dropped listings happening at Smut Gremlins? I can't seem to find my sites there either.

she has hee links set to expire as some of my not so old links are gone but more newer links are there, there are reasons for links to be removed after so long if your seo plan is focused around that

Useless · 2006-08-08, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by plateman

this no PR in google thing is IMO a algo change that fucked up and next update the PR will be back... And IMO PR doesnt mean shit

example my one LL LOST all PR on the category pages BUT ONE....

This is the 4 or 5 straight month that G likes my site more than the month before and when I lost PR on all my category pages weeks ago - MY google listings never wavered

I too have had the waivering PR thing with my LLs category pages since the beginning, as I'm sure that most of us have, so I've never paid any attention to the PR voodoo. I've seen respected members of this board, with an abundance of SEO knowledge and experience, say time and time again that one shouldn't base link trades on PR, and I shall continue to follow their advice. That's what a reciprocal link on a free site is - a link trade. I link to you, you link to me, everyone is happy.

Simon · 2006-08-09, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

That's what a reciprocal link on a free site is - a link trade. I link to you, you link to me, everyone is happy.

::gentlystirring::

Makes sense.

In that context, how do you (generic "you") handle those link lists which don't keep your free sites listed forever?

I mean, if I had a link trade with you, say between one of your link lists and one of mine, and you took my link down, it would seem to be fair/correct to take down your link on my site, right?

So, do you remove the recips for link lists which drop your free site listings based on a 'expire date' or do you leave the recips up?

If you remove the recip, do you replace it with another LL recip and then submit your free site to that LL? Or is it just build and forget, including forgetting that some LL won't list your free sites forever?

2006-08-08, 10:10 AM	#1
plateman What can I do - I was born this way LOL Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 3,086	site:http:www.japamor.com looks like it isn't banned... http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:...s&ct=clnk&cd=2 __________________ Submit to: Porn O Plenty XXX Links Reality Here Last edited by plateman; 2006-08-08 at 10:12 AM..

2006-08-08, 10:33 AM	#2
plateman What can I do - I was born this way LOL Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 3,086	check this out I had PR 3 and 4 PR free sites on a domain that had a lot of sites and most now have no PR but 2 or 3 - also note I build NO doorways... My other domain has at the most 30 sites with no doorways and has 3 or 4 sites that have PR all the other has PR gone... this no PR in google thing is IMO a algo change that fucked up and next update the PR will be back... And IMO PR doesnt mean shit example my one LL LOST all PR on the category pages BUT ONE.... This is the 4 or 5 straight month that G likes my site more than the month before and when I lost PR on all my category pages weeks ago - MY google listings never wavered __________________ Submit to: Porn O Plenty XXX Links Reality Here

2006-08-08, 11:52 AM	#5
docholly Nothing funnier than the ridiculous faces you people make mid-coitus Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sin-City USA Posts: 4,973	hmmm i a bit confused by all of this especially the "no pr" part. does this mean we need to let our free sites spin in cyberspace until they get some pr on them? or should we go ahead and submit and there is a time line that after so many days/weeks/months if no pr shows up, we'll be delisted? Does this override the "listing forever" post of a few months back? did i mention i'm on drugs and cannot be trusted with a keyboard these days? __________________ Support Indie Porn Sites OMGoddess You know you need some Bling!! Last edited by docholly; 2006-08-08 at 11:53 AM.. Reason: i forgot GG isn't talking to me :-(

2006-08-08, 12:15 PM	#6
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	Are these seem changes/dropped listings happening at Smut Gremlins? I can't seem to find my sites there either. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.