Zango?

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by pornhitzman

I just installed zango on my computer and made a test on my own site and it pops up another dating sponsor over AFF when I click one of my AFF links. Same thing happens when I click on any cams.com link.

this is just so wrong.

I know this has been going on for a while now, but it does seem as though there's a 'ramping up' taking place right now

Hats off to ya for installing the fucker and testing it

[TopbucksTrixxxi]

Originally Posted by MrYum

I know this has been going on for a while now, but it does seem as though there's a 'ramping up' taking place right now

Hats off to ya for installing the fucker and testing it

Well if you consider that gambling became officially illegal in the last month or so, they need to replace that income with something else. Porn is the perfect victim - there are so many people that can't see a foot past them that they will be willing to infect as many as they can in hopes of making that .40 per install or whatever it is that these companies pay.

What those people that help facilitate the installs aren't realizing is that their incomes, with every other sponsor they work on in the future will now diminish. This disease of an install will chew up on your income for the next few years or until it's cleaned off the computers of infected surfers.

Everything from SEO, Galleries, TGP, MGP, LinkLists, Free sites, hubs......whatever you build from now on, remember that if nothing is done to stop this, you are basically giving a certain % to some invisible income chomper.


**Also, it's not only the company that owns the scumware that is 'taking' from you - it could be your competitor, other affiliates, one of your sponsors. The other folks are bidding on the keywords from another of their services as PPC. So you worked HARD on finding and building great text on your pages - and they basically takeover your text, links, hardwork and credit for all the surfers that are infected with this stuff**

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by TopbucksTrixxxi

Well if you consider that gambling became officially illegal in the last month or so, they need to replace that income with something else. Porn is the perfect victim - there are so many people that can't see a foot past them that they will be willing to infect as many as they can in hopes of making that .40 per install or whatever it is that these companies pay.

What those people that help facilitate the installs aren't realizing is that their incomes, with every other sponsor they work on in the future will now diminish. This disease of an install will chew up on your income for the next few years or until it's cleaned off the computers of infected surfers.

Everything from SEO, Galleries, TGP, MGP, LinkLists, Free sites, hubs......whatever you build from now on, remember that if nothing is done to stop this, you are basically giving a certain % to some invisible income chomper.


**Also, it's not only the company that owns the scumware that is 'taking' from you - it could be your competitor, other affiliates, one of your sponsors. The other folks are bidding on the keywords from another of their services as PPC. So you worked HARD on finding and building great text on your pages - and they basically takeover your text, links, hardwork and credit for all the surfers that are infected with this stuff**

Very well put and absolutely true Trixxxi

Frankly, it was more than a bit disconcerting that some folks who stated openly they'd continue to promote this for the quick buck. Talk about shooting oneself in the foot

[TopbucksTrixxxi]

Originally Posted by MrYum

Very well put and absolutely true Trixxxi

Frankly, it was more than a bit disconcerting that some folks who stated openly they'd continue to promote this for the quick buck. Talk about shooting oneself in the foot

Exactly - See I can expect some funky stuff from a newb in the biz - but people that have already been here for awhile, I wonder what would inspire them to want to lose a potential customer for a few years for a measily $ 0.40.

Think of the poor smuck that has it installed, now if I have a hard time removing mine, the neighbour's and everyone in my family & I can basically skate well on a computer - imagine what some fresh surfer has to go through?**BTW I've gotten these crap things auto-installed many times - now who's installing them, I'm not going to point a finger BUT it has been auto-installed & it's a bitch to remove** Do you think he'd want to spend $ 50 - $100 to have someone efficiently remove it or format his drive? Do you think he will be happy-go-lucky surfing in the future? The answer is no & the other answer is the more you do it, the more you are conditioning your surfer to become skeptical and cautious rather than be a spur-of-the-moment emotional buyer.

The other thing is think of the power you are giving these companies!!!!! Not only are they taking over your traffic, in some cases, they are also charging per click for YOUR work!!! it's a win-win situation. You are inadvertently giving them total control of YOUR clients - remember that. It's a client that will never come back to you - even if he loves your site, any purchase he will make will be credited to someone else. Keep that in mind when you're all gun-ho about installing for a measily $ .40.

**Mr. Yum - I'm sure you understood it - but just in case - when I refer to 'YOU' I mean anyone who's all 'YAH MAN!! WOOHOO $0.40 per install baby - I'm making bank!'

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by TopbucksTrixxxi

Exactly - See I can expect some funky stuff from a newb in the biz - but people that have already been here for awhile, I wonder what would inspire them to want to lose a potential customer for a few years for a measily $ 0.40.

Think of the poor smuck that has it installed, now if I have a hard time removing mine, the neighbour's and everyone in my family & I can basically skate well on a computer - imagine what some fresh surfer has to go through?**BTW I've gotten these crap things auto-installed many times - now who's installing them, I'm not going to point a finger BUT it has been auto-installed & it's a bitch to remove** Do you think he'd want to spend $ 50 - $100 to have someone efficiently remove it or format his drive? Do you think he will be happy-go-lucky surfing in the future? The answer is no & the other answer is the more you do it, the more you are conditioning your surfer to become skeptical and cautious rather than be a spur-of-the-moment emotional buyer.

The other thing is think of the power you are giving these companies!!!!! Not only are they taking over your traffic, in some cases, they are also charging per click for YOUR work!!! it's a win-win situation. You are inadvertently giving them total control of YOUR clients - remember that. It's a client that will never come back to you - even if he loves your site, any purchase he will make will be credited to someone else. Keep that in mind when you're all gun-ho about installing for a measily $ .40.

**Mr. Yum - I'm sure you understood it - but just in case - when I refer to 'YOU' I mean anyone who's all 'YAH MAN!! WOOHOO $0.40 per install baby - I'm making bank!'

Yup, understood it completely

And agree totally, some of the people in this business are so short sighted it's staggering. Like yourself, I could see a newbie making this kind of mistake. And frankly, it wouldn't be as detrimental to the industry if it were someone with little to no traffic to speak of. But, some of the people pushing this crap actually have traffic. They're not only fucking themselves...they're fucking all of us in the ass too. And for a long time to come as surfers become convinced it's that damn porn business fucking up their computers again

That said, I'm going to start doing some sideline work as a geek on the go. These fuckers are costing me money...no doubt about that...stats have been horrible since this shit really hit the fan a few weeks ago. Unlike some who say, 'if ya can't beat em, join em'...I'll make up my lost revenue by helping surfers remove this crap and educating them on how to keep it clean

Frankly, even if/when zango is taken down...there will be others...there will always be others. So fuck it, I've decided to do the right thing and help the end users who are being screwed. Makes me feel good...and will most likely be fairly lucrative too

[virgohippy]

Originally Posted by jayeff

Stop promoting sponsors who are not actively opposed to scumware. Treat anyone, whatever their role in this business, like a leper if they promote scumware.

Washing my hands of the idiots is easy enough, but how would I know which sponsors work with these demons?

Originally Posted by MrYum

Frankly, even if/when zango is taken down...there will be others...there will always be others. So fuck it, I've decided to do the right thing and help the end users who are being screwed.

You got a PM MrYum.

[iMan]

wow... I had no idea that I'm working for others..

I'd also like to know how to spot the good/bad sponsors... or anything else that can be done.