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JustRobert · 2006-10-14, 01:40 PM

I only do nudes so subbing is not a problem for me, usually

I usually use age as a ref, so to me women 18-23 is coed/teen, 23-29 babe, 30-40 milf and 40+ is mature. Now if someone has a grandma or gilf category its 50+. Though my wife and I are in our early 40's, I just know our daughter will make us grandparents by 45.

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Have a question that has always confused me. As we look and deal with this industry day in and out we all become numb to it and forget that the surfer is not, well a good portion are not. If I were going to build a "cum" site I would not want to give away 12+ pics of it. Are we not suppose to tease the surfer into wanting to see more of it? Maybe a build up to say 6 actual cum pics which would be 25%. Or are you using 50% mark this way its easier to place it?

I do not build these sites cause I do not care for them. You can photograph a nude in an unlimited number of angles with her looking beautiful. But with the cum sites its like here is a head on shot, a right side and a left side shot, maybe a body shot and the flying goo shot. After that its all repetition to me

Guess I do not get it

ponygirl · 2006-10-14, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRobert

Have a question that has always confused me. As we look and deal with this industry day in and out we all become numb to it and forget that the surfer is not, well a good portion are not. If I were going to build a "cum" site I would not want to give away 12+ pics of it. Are we not suppose to tease the surfer into wanting to see more of it? Maybe a build up to say 6 actual cum pics which would be 25%. Or are you using 50% mark this way its easier to place it?

and that's the dilemma I have when reviewing. I figure if it's a cumshot/creampie site & sponsor, around 1/2 of the pics should have some jizz in it. If the first gallery has no actual sighting of the stuff, then the 2nd gallery better be all gooey

I understand that you can't give it all away, I submit too so I know what it's like. But if I want to keep a surfer coming back to that category, I better deliver, and the last 2 or 3 pics just won't do it.

On a side note, from a submitter's point of view, I don't want the surfer to go to my 1st gallery and not even stay because it's got no relevant pics. You want them to linger on every page as much as possible, and if the only good pics are the last 3 on gallery 2, how much time are they spending on my site?

Preacher · 2006-10-14, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenie

That's one that boggles my mind as well - I get sites titled "Slutty Blonde Milf" submitted to the mature category & "Slutty Mature Blonde" submitted to milf

Ditto...

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Originally Posted by ponygirl

My main beef lately falls into #s 2 & 3, I think. I see this a lot with sites submitted to my 'Cum' category - 3 shots of goo out of 24 do not make it a cum site!

Ok, I'll respond to that because I am known for having built both cum & creampie sites -- though mine aren't your typical mom & pop variety. Here's the rub, with these types of sites it's all about the ending.

Most generic cum sites will not have the cum-drooling and whatnot that I am privalidged enough to get my hands on, so what we see instead is an actual pop followed by like 12 pictures of a cum faced girl sitting there smiling which is actually pretty damn boring.

Creampies are even more difficult, because the whole payoff is the post coitus shot. I understand that generally more liberty is given here, but it's still an issue if you build a regular creampie site.

Here's my suggestion which I believe will get listed most anyplace. If you have two gallery pages, you should use two different sets of content.

In a creampie movie site I would say that if you have 4 movies, then one of them should be the cream exposing video even though it's only 25% of the page content.

On facial galleries, I would think you could get away with about 33% of the content on each page being a facial or 4 pics out of a set of 12.

Yes, it's more work to work with 2 seperate sets and it reduces your content folder potential to half of what it could be, but I think the action flows better this way without any "boring" shots and I don't know of a list that would decline you for this type of set up. IMO, liberty would be given to either of these types of sites if built correctly.

Greenguy · 2006-10-14, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRobert

...Have a question that has always confused me. As we look and deal with this industry day in and out we all become numb to it and forget that the surfer is not, well a good portion are not. If I were going to build a "cum" site I would not want to give away 12+ pics of it. Are we not suppose to tease the surfer into wanting to see more of it? Maybe a build up to say 6 actual cum pics which would be 25%. Or are you using 50% mark this way its easier to place it?...

I look at it this way: Would you sell a lesbian site with nude babe pics? Would you sell a hardcore black site with a pics nude black girl?

No - you'd use content that matched the site that you were promoting.

Based on your theory, you should not use nude pics to promote a nude babe site.

JustRobert · 2006-10-14, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenie

I look at it this way: Would you sell a lesbian site with nude babe pics? Would you sell a hardcore black site with a pics nude black girl?

No - you'd use content that matched the site that you were promoting.

Based on your theory, you should not use nude pics to promote a nude babe site.

Actually I have sold a lesbian site with just nudes in cross marketing since I knew both gals did each other in that site. Yes, I would sell a hardcore site with just nudes. Its the sales text that drives them to the sponsor where the nude pics just gets him/her horny enough to want to go there, hopefully. But, then again they are only sub to the soft categories since thats what the content is. Which I guess is where your problem really is, people subbing wrong.

And in theory i have used maybe 6 completely nude pics within a site to promote a nude babe site. They are usually a strip tease build up, which works. Guess thats why I look at a build up to the cumshot without it being overwhelming. This is one reason I work with nudes, I like the build up

With reviewing sites for only a year, I have not had alot of this content cum, couldn't help it, my way. So I truly do appreciate your response Greenie.

Ponygirl, thanks for yours too, glad to know its just not my dilema.

Preacher, your comments is what I was thinking as well. Use 2 sets of content this way you get a good portion of those shots on each gallery without all the pics looking the same or just boring.

Thanks again for everyones input

Preacher · 2006-10-14, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRobert

With reviewing sites for only a year, I have not had alot of this content cum, couldn't help it, my way. So I truly do appreciate your response Greenie.

I'm sorry, what site have you been reviewing for a year?

I don't mean to sound like I'm busting your balls and I have nothing against you Robert, but this is the second time you have implied a good deal of experience with reviews. This may very well be true but the two linklists you have exposed on this board appear to have been created in September of this year.

JustRobert · 2006-10-14, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Preacher

I'm sorry, what site have you been reviewing for a year?

I don't mean to sound like I'm busting your balls and I have nothing against you Robert, but this is the second time you have implied a good deal of experience with reviews. This may very well be true but the two linklists you have exposed on this board appear to have been created in September of this year.

Nothing against you either Preacher, I have liked your posts up until this one

, but if you call someone out like this than what is a man truly to think. You could have just sent a PM. Since not, I will probably be wordy here. If I was in your position I may have asked the same question.

LegalTeenLust (created:04-Oct-2002) is a site that has bounced back and forth between tgp, linklist and a combination of both for a couple of years between taking submits and not. Honestly the first couple of years it just sat there like a bad hub, LOL. The creation of CoedsAndBabes was due to a recent ppc issues and thats what I mostly know and like. EroticToNaughty is brand new and is set up to be more general because I am looking into other niches and hoping others will submit them to me as well. The first two seemed very niche oriented and may have stopped someone subbing a Mature site, which C&B has. Both LTL and C&B were done manually and ETN is on a script making life a bit easier. Probably not the best way to go, but better now than later.

If I have implied to have a good deal of knowledge on reviewing, then I apologize to those that think that. This is not my intention. My questions and comments, I thought, was written in a way that I am looking for answers from those who have Far More experience reviewing. Any implication of knowledge really comes from my 5 years of building galleries, started with JazminzLick created: Fri, Sep 07, 2001, and a couple of years building freesites, I am not sure of the exact dates I started freesites so please do not hold me to that. You can also throw in the crap galleries and redirecting bastards I dealt with when I accepted galleries plus the very few freesites that came thru LTL plus whatever has been coming thru C&B or ETN which has not been that much.

Most submitters did not stick around. Why, probably because I did not send large quantities of traffic. I did not trade with anyone, except virgohippy even when he was on a freehost cause I know him, which is why I am here. To meet people and possibly trade hardlinks. I have been waiting until people know me from this board longer before asking. But I did spend 30K of ppc traffic last year to it. Thought quality would be better than quantity, it still is in my mind. I know its not alot compared to others in this business but its all I could afford. Due to that ppc issue I have only spent 14K this year so far and right now the ad budget is just $20 a day to a pantyhub that feeds into ETN.

Hopefully, Preacher, your post did not deter possible submitters though it probably has. I have been honest here and hopefully others will see that. I am a small Link List owner, at this time, and a never ending Newbie because I always want to learn even though I am 42!

Am I now qualified to ask questions or give advice to a fresh newbie?

Sorry again for its length. I await, unfortunately, the next response.
Robert

Preacher · 2006-10-14, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRobert

...You could have just sent a PM. Since not, I will probably be wordy here. If I was in your position I may have asked the same question....

You're probably right and we'll finish the conversation in private and get this thread back on track.

Sorry everybody nothing to see here, move along.

2006-10-14, 01:40 PM	#1
JustRobert Bow Ties Are Cool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Posts: 9,696	I only do nudes so subbing is not a problem for me, usually I usually use age as a ref, so to me women 18-23 is coed/teen, 23-29 babe, 30-40 milf and 40+ is mature. Now if someone has a grandma or gilf category its 50+. Though my wife and I are in our early 40's, I just know our daughter will make us grandparents by 45. & all in one. Have a question that has always confused me. As we look and deal with this industry day in and out we all become numb to it and forget that the surfer is not, well a good portion are not. If I were going to build a "cum" site I would not want to give away 12+ pics of it. Are we not suppose to tease the surfer into wanting to see more of it? Maybe a build up to say 6 actual cum pics which would be 25%. Or are you using 50% mark this way its easier to place it? I do not build these sites cause I do not care for them. You can photograph a nude in an unlimited number of angles with her looking beautiful. But with the cum sites its like here is a head on shot, a right side and a left side shot, maybe a body shot and the flying goo shot. After that its all repetition to me Guess I do not get it __________________ Submit Your Galleries To The Erotic To Naughty Network!