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Old 2006-10-22, 11:11 PM   #1
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DamageX, like I said, even a simple redirect page that would say, "Your computer has been infected by an adware program." Scare the shit out of the surfer by saying these people now know where you have been and what you are doing. And then give them a way to uninstall the toolbar. Also, recommend some anti adware software for future attacks. That alone would probably stop the problem by probably 30% or more. It really doesn't matter what you do to someone with the toolbar...you aren't going to make money from them anyway.

I truthfully only learned today that an affiliate could use this software. It does seem to be in the best interest of everyone to get some software up and running to put an end to it.

We will work on something as well.
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Old 2006-10-23, 12:12 AM   #2
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Just so that there is some basic understanding here:
First zango does run an affiliate program of their own called zangocash - which allows affiliates to make money off of installs
They also work with publishers/sponsors to provide content based on keyword searches and highlighting certain words on a web page
On top of that they work with anyone that will bid on certain search terms PPC which is where I think sponsors are most vulnerable - I can sign in right now and bid on cams dot com - and put my own ad on the surfers browser even if Im not cams dot com - I can also pop any other aff programs ad for that PPC ad - so if I were say promoting another personals/cams program I could pay to have their console with my aff code show up
Second - Zango is a small part of a much larger problem - there are somewhere around 400 programs that do this same thing - while zango has received a lot of attention because of their recent myspace attention - the ad I saw said basically "to view adult content on myspace - click here" which then installed zango - and explains part of the high rate of installations recently

As far as the idea of redirecting to a removal page - I have two problems - while we should be informing surfers - which is easy to do with a java popbox and a link imbedded in that box to take them somewhere to remove it
We should not be trying to sell them off to a removal program as most of those also install another program/toolbar
We also should not be pushing most of these removal programs as they also block cookies which defeats a good 50% of the affiliates we do use normally

Just some things to start thing about
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Old 2006-10-23, 04:50 AM   #3
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Zango is a small part of a much larger problem - there are somewhere around 400 programs that do this same thing
Time to form our own organization to combat these sorts of threats as they arise?

Could start with a group responsible for handling and verifying anonymous tips (seems to work well with the ASACP?), another group deals with technical/creative solutions to the threat, and a third disseminates information to all parties concerned about how to deal with threat.

Obviously this sort of problem isn't going to go away if/when Zango's tamed... so why not lay down the groundwork now and create a system which treats it as such? The collaboration of ideas here, now, is really refreshing, but a more permanent system might be more efficient in the long run.

I nominate myself as the official whipping boy!

Just gotta think about funding now... money is a great motivator, afterall.

And Jim I think you make a good point about not turning this into a money making scheme to exploit the surfers. It's not in our best interest to turn them off from our valiant efforts to make the web a safe and fun place because of short sighted thinking... like the people at Zango practice.
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Old 2006-10-23, 08:27 PM   #4
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Scare the shit out of the surfer by saying these people now know where you have been and what you are doing. And then give them a way to uninstall the toolbar. Also, recommend some anti adware software for future attacks.
Be carefull what kind of anti-adware programs you recommend/promote. Most of them block/delete cookies, so promoting them = shooting yourself in the foot.

(a good one: Spybot S&D: http://www.safer-networking.org/)
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