How do you pick your sponsors?

Greenguy · 2006-10-31, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hzoltan

why? what's wrong about it? a program could be good, even if nobody recommended it to you yet... not to mention that it's rude to just ignore somebody.

Would you consider it rude to ICQ someone that has no idea who you are? That's why there's laws in place against cold calling telemarketers - if that person didn't give you their ICQ number, odds are they don't want to talk to you.

I don't mind if they bug me a bit, but I do tend to get pissed when I tell them no & they continue to annoy me

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Simon IA Cash · 2006-10-31, 04:26 PM

Ok, let's get real here; this is hardly the equivalent of cold-call telemarketing. Some jackass calls me up to tell me to buy a cell phone or magazine, that's one thing. But this a person in an industry hitting up another person in the same industry to inquire about business possibilities for mutual benefit. Not raw selling for profit.

Yeah, ICQ is kinda like a phone call. So imagine this in any other industry. What person in any industry would not take a call for a business partnership from someone else in that industry? At least to see, just in case? You can tell within just a couple of minutes whether there is business potential or not. Not replying IS rude. Forget a couple of minutes. If you don't want business at all and can't spare any time to hear the person's proposal(s) out, at least a "no thanks not interested" would be fine.

Yes, adult is different than most industries, and yes, there's lots of spam and a lot of people who waste other people's time, but sponsors don't make money unless affiliates do. Sometimes there's actually good potential for business, and the sponsor contacted with good reason.

emmanuelle · 2006-10-31, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon IA Cash

Ok, let's get real here; this is hardly the equivalent of cold-call telemarketing. Some jackass calls me up to tell me to buy a cell phone or magazine, that's one thing. But this a person in an industry hitting up another person in the same industry to inquire about business possibilities for mutual benefit. Not raw selling for profit.

Evidently this depends on one's perspective.

Greenguy · 2006-10-31, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon IA Cash

...Not replying IS rude....

That is such a load of SHIT! If I didn't know you & you got my ICQ number from here on the board & hit me up about your program, it'd be rude of me to not reply to the unsolicited message that you sent me?

virgohippy · 2006-10-31, 05:07 PM

A lot of programs offer all kinds of deals/promotions/services/etc. all the time. I can't imagine how any site owner would get any work done if they treated their private messaging system as an open forum for each and every rep who wanted to contact them about some spectacular new program.

Simon IA Cash · 2006-11-01, 03:52 PM

I don't ignore anyone, generally, in my life, whether it's a homeless person, a random person on ICQ, or a telemarketer (although, admittedly, I fuck with telemarketers a bit on occasion). No matter who they are, people are people, and whether it's on ICQ or not, saying nothing tells them they are nothing to you, not even worthy of an acknowledgement/reply. Fact is, you never know who you the person you ignored might turn out to be, and you could be hurting a future relationship. Whether you care or not is another story, I guess.

I see your point about an unsolicited message being a bit intrusive, but again, this is potential mutual-gain business. I think it's worth it to hear a little of what a person has to say, if they feel they have something special to offer me. If you don't want to do that, fine. All I'm saying is that it's not so outlandish to tell someone "no thanks, no more messages please", and I think it would be quite possible for webmasters to get their work done all the same. Not all salespeople are so terrible, and given how often messages don't go through or get received over ICQ (for whatever reason), I think a decent and hardworking salesperson could be given the courtesy of a 5-second "no thanks not interested" so they don't have to wonder why there was no reply.

2006-10-31, 04:26 PM	#2
Simon IA Cash Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 93	Ok, let's get real here; this is hardly the equivalent of cold-call telemarketing. Some jackass calls me up to tell me to buy a cell phone or magazine, that's one thing. But this a person in an industry hitting up another person in the same industry to inquire about business possibilities for mutual benefit. Not raw selling for profit. Yeah, ICQ is kinda like a phone call. So imagine this in any other industry. What person in any industry would not take a call for a business partnership from someone else in that industry? At least to see, just in case? You can tell within just a couple of minutes whether there is business potential or not. Not replying IS rude. Forget a couple of minutes. If you don't want business at all and can't spare any time to hear the person's proposal(s) out, at least a "no thanks not interested" would be fine. Yes, adult is different than most industries, and yes, there's lots of spam and a lot of people who waste other people's time, but sponsors don't make money unless affiliates do. Sometimes there's actually good potential for business, and the sponsor contacted with good reason. __________________ simon -at- iacash dot com icq: 231-421-229

2006-10-31, 05:07 PM	#5
virgohippy Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little... push. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,679	A lot of programs offer all kinds of deals/promotions/services/etc. all the time. I can't imagine how any site owner would get any work done if they treated their private messaging system as an open forum for each and every rep who wanted to contact them about some spectacular new program. __________________ ~Warm and Fuzzy.

2006-11-01, 03:52 PM	#6
Simon IA Cash Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 93	I don't ignore anyone, generally, in my life, whether it's a homeless person, a random person on ICQ, or a telemarketer (although, admittedly, I fuck with telemarketers a bit on occasion). No matter who they are, people are people, and whether it's on ICQ or not, saying nothing tells them they are nothing to you, not even worthy of an acknowledgement/reply. Fact is, you never know who you the person you ignored might turn out to be, and you could be hurting a future relationship. Whether you care or not is another story, I guess. I see your point about an unsolicited message being a bit intrusive, but again, this is potential mutual-gain business. I think it's worth it to hear a little of what a person has to say, if they feel they have something special to offer me. If you don't want to do that, fine. All I'm saying is that it's not so outlandish to tell someone "no thanks, no more messages please", and I think it would be quite possible for webmasters to get their work done all the same. Not all salespeople are so terrible, and given how often messages don't go through or get received over ICQ (for whatever reason), I think a decent and hardworking salesperson could be given the courtesy of a 5-second "no thanks not interested" so they don't have to wonder why there was no reply. __________________ simon -at- iacash dot com icq: 231-421-229