Are These New Piece Of Shit Options Now Standard In NATS?

[Useless]

Originally Posted by LB

Having used Nats as an affiliate and a program owner I absolutely love nats. I have also had the opportunity to run nats (using mostly epoch and vxsbill) and ccbill side to side as an affiliate and every time the nats solution gave me significantly better ratios. Also never had an issue as an affiliate since if I don't like how a sponsor implemented nats and don't like their setup, then I don't use them. Same goes for mpa and the others.

Must just be a case of preference, because unlike many of you I cant stand using ccbill as an affiliate. Its clumsy, slow, and I know sales aren't being tracked well.

So I assume that TitanBucks doesn't use CCBill as one of their processors...

I can log into any program which uses NATS right now, pull up the stats for this period and click on the last number shown under Unq, which is Total, and recieve an incomplete list of referring URLs. Why is that? Right this moment at TitanBucks, my total of Uniques this period is (woohoo) 13. When I click on 13, I get this:
http://fhg.planetpreggo.com/pp/pregnant-models-x... 2 0 0:2
http://fhg.planetpreggo.com/pp/pregnant-models-x... 1 0 0:1
http://fhg.planetpreggo.com/pp/pregnant-slut-fuc... 1 0 0:1
http://fhg.planetpreggo.com/pp/pregnant-models-x... 1 0 0:1
http://www.whoringwives.com/tgp/pantyhose/ 1 0 0:1
Total 6

Where are the rest, LB? If NATS is so damn good - where are the rest?

And why not display the number of visits to the tour AND to the join page? Is it because NATS allows you to set the cookie expiration so short, that by the time a surfer hits the join page, the cookie is dead and that affiliate tracking has ended?

I can't defend the pregnant yak-like speed of CCBill's affiliate admin, but I never heard anyone say that they don't trust their ability to track joins.

[LB]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

So I assume that TitanBucks doesn't use CCBill as one of their processors...

I can log into any program which uses NATS right now, pull up the stats for this period and click on the last number shown under Unq, which is Total, and recieve an incomplete list of referring URLs. Why is that? Right this moment at TitanBucks, my total of Uniques this period is (woohoo) 13. When I click on 13, I get this:
http://fhg.planetpreggo.com/pp/pregnant-models-x... 2 0 0:2
http://fhg.planetpreggo.com/pp/pregnant-models-x... 1 0 0:1
http://fhg.planetpreggo.com/pp/pregnant-slut-fuc... 1 0 0:1
http://fhg.planetpreggo.com/pp/pregnant-models-x... 1 0 0:1
http://www.whoringwives.com/tgp/pantyhose/ 1 0 0:1
Total 6

Where are the rest, LB? If NATS is so damn good - where are the rest?

And why not display the number of visits to the tour AND to the join page? Is it because NATS allows you to set the cookie expiration so short, that by the time a surfer hits the join page, the cookie is dead and that affiliate tracking has ended?

I can't defend the pregnant yak-like speed of CCBill's affiliate admin, but I never heard anyone say that they don't trust their ability to track joins.

I'm assuming NATS doesn't display the clicks that couldn't be tracked to a ref url?? Though I admit I will have to check that. There is also a similar glitch in the site admin modules where some stats for affiliates aren't displayed ... similar to what you have but with nothing shown. Still waiting for a fix on that, but overall I'm still pretty happy with nats.

Back a while when I worked with another proggy with ccbill, we constantly saw sales not being tracked to the affiliate. The way we were set up these sales shouldn't have been lost, but I put it at around 10-20% of sales not being tracked correctly. I'm not sure whether ccbill just uses cookies, and if so that would be the reason right there. Running ccbill through cascading software (be it custom built, mpa, nats etc) would be the best bet.

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by LB

I'm assuming NATS doesn't display the clicks that couldn't be tracked to a ref url?? Though I admit I will have to check that. .

If experience is any indication every program that I have that uses Nats has this tracking problem - the stats on the main page of the affiliate stats will show a number of 1st page hits and join page hits if they configure it that way - but if you go into the specific site you are sending to - the stats dont match - they are usually 20% less for referring urls although they do show the blank referrals and bookmark refs(which is where I would have assumed the discrepancy was) - so Im not sure where the rest go????

[Tvduijn]

I always wonder that aswell, today its even worse then normal at one of my sponsors, I try to track 670 uniques and I get refferals for.....75 uniques

[lassiter]

Originally Posted by Linkster

If experience is any indication every program that I have that uses Nats has this tracking problem - the stats on the main page of the affiliate stats will show a number of 1st page hits and join page hits if they configure it that way - but if you go into the specific site you are sending to - the stats dont match - they are usually 20% less for referring urls although they do show the blank referrals and bookmark refs(which is where I would have assumed the discrepancy was) - so Im not sure where the rest go????

I think my favorite (not) is PanchoDog. Their NATS stats page will show I have 65-75 uniques on a given day, and when I check the referring URLs it only shows one or two.