Are These New Piece Of Shit Options Now Standard In NATS?

[Toby]

Originally Posted by DamnQ

...make the effort as a partner to insure the place u send your traffic is working & setup properly...

OK, but just exactly what are we supposed to be looking for beyond simply making sure that the links from the hosted galleries have our referral code?

BTW, nice to see you here.

[virgohippy]

DamnQ, you mentioned finding the "real" problem.

If programs can so easily turn sour as a result of a software change then how would it be in the best interest of an affiliate to NOT be skeptical of the software?

I don't care if the program owner is the one responsible for mucking up the works. As a business owner, I have to find trends in the market. And if using a particular software usually accompanies a drop in sales, I have little choice in the matter but to adapt. My survival as a business owner depends on it.

Furthermore, as UW pointed out, as an affiliate, I have absolutely no responsability in insuring the success of a program owner's business.

If something is consistently not right, I'm not going to waste my precious time doing research on a topic that's not going to help me run my business so I can fix someone else's problem. Not when I can easily work with people who can fix their own problems. That's just business.

The "real" problem is that I don't think your values are in line with the values of the affiliate marketers who disagree with you.

[Qon]

Originally Posted by Toby

OK, but just exactly what are we supposed to be looking for beyond simply making sure that the links from the hosted galleries have our referral code?

BTW, nice to see you here.

an error in a join form entry can cause the transaction to stop before it even successfully reaches the process. you'll see the traffic to the join but no signups.... this is not because the site doesn't sell or because nats is fucking your ratios... its a setup error by the program owner. test a full, completed transaction... this will let u know if all is good..... moving on 2 the next question

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by DamnQ

did u completely skip everything i posted thereafter? IF YOU DON'T MAKE SALES, YOU STOP SENDING TRAFFIC. YOU STOP SENDING TRAFFIC, I STOP MAKING SALES. seems like common sense to me.... if you're talking PPS, then its a different ballgame... but this is revshare and every sale counts so why would i WANT your sales to go missing or not get credited?

Originally Posted by Preacher

This reminds me of a time about a year ago where some well known webmaster on some forum listed a handful of sponsors that he swore was shaving based on traffic numbers and ratios.

Originally Posted by DamnQ

my deductions were not strictly based on traffic numbers and ratios and i believe i went thru all this.... don't u hate when people try to take your words and use them against you on a completely irrelevant subject?

I really didn't think I had to spell out the logical connection there, but apparently I do.

I guess the relevance was that you stated "why would i WANT your sales to go missing or not get credited". Why then would the sponsors that you outed as shaving "WANT your sales to go missing or not get credited"?

Originally Posted by DamnQ

an error in a join form entry can cause the transaction to stop before it even successfully reaches the process. you'll see the traffic to the join but no signups.... this is not because the site doesn't sell or because nats is fucking your ratios... its a setup error by the program owner. test a full, completed transaction... this will let u know if all is good..... moving on 2 the next question

After mentioning the slipping ratios to the guy who runs the program, the first thing I did was ask if it was Ok to try a test join, which I did and they refunded all which showed up in the stats. So what's the next thing I was supposed to test?