Making free sites sucks - Page 3

JD · 2006-12-22, 06:54 AM

Hi Tommy
Any chance of a submit pass? Or when will you be releasing some more of them

HowlingWulf

Thanks for the post, nice to have some positive feedback. Right now 5k would be fantastic, would pay the stupid mortgage and live off it. At the moment, my last sale was like a week and a half ago, and thats with submitting at least a free site a day to 60 odd link lists. Its just so slow and painful at the moment. How long have you been at it for?
What do you use for your submitting? I was using chameleon a while ago, with no paid passes though, just a few partner accounts and all the other sites in the database.
With your galleries, do you make them yourself or use the FHG ones and upload them? WIth so many thousands of FHG released every day, do you think its ok to use them on your own server for submitting with?
Good stuff with the work anyhow, I am so humble these days, I dont know what its like to make 5k a month anymore, so I consider you a big guy in terms of money, so there lol

ronnie
Thanks a lot for the link to that program and your advice also, all taken in and appreciated, regards
JD

HowlingWulf · 2006-12-22, 12:33 PM

Hmm I 'started' about 6 or 7 years ago, and it took me awhile to get into it fully. I wish I knew then what I know now.

For submitting, I use my own script which is similar to G.A.S.S. it keeps a database of sites and creates mirror pages of my gallery based on niche and recips based on size. I use Arles to help create the gallery and Irfanview to hand crop images as needed. I type the html code by hand with a VI editor. I submit by hand to each site on my list (about 50), with some filling help with Roboform. Never submit FHG to sites or even use those designs. TGP owners list those themselves and won't accept them from submitters, some will even ban you for that.

Spend some time surfing some big TGP sites, the top galleries usually have great designs. Mine are rather simple in comparison I dont use any fancy graphics.

remote · 2006-12-23, 01:07 PM

Without having seen any of the freesites, hubs, galleries etc from anyone in this thread, I would have to say that, its not the 90s anymore, u cant just pump out stuff and forget it and expect the money to come.
You have to make sure you sell! something, and not just provide free porn to the surfer. We are in marketing, not public service. Work on the ads, read books, tutorials whatever on marketing. Positioning, text, colors, tease, psychology, and so on and on.

Oh, and last, only quitters quit. NEVER! give up.
Merry xmas ppl!

Tommy · 2006-12-23, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD

Hi Tommy
Any chance of a submit pass? Or when will you be releasing some more of them

!

ummm....I guess I could let a few go
I sent you a PM

anyone else intersted ???

Jonno · 2006-12-23, 06:00 PM

Hi Tommy I'd certainly be interested in a chance to post with you.

I have really enjoyed reading this thread over the last few days. It makes me feel more a part of this business knowing that there are others out there that are experiencing the same problems and frustrations that I have had. It is also good to know that if you work hard, play by the rules and keep plugging away the chance to make a few buck is still out there.

I hope everyone has a great holiday season and a happy healthy and prosperous new year.

japamor · 2006-12-23, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by remote

Oh, and last, only quitters quit. NEVER! give up.
Merry xmas ppl!

The very best advice I can think of. Well said!

Maj. Stress · 2006-12-23, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy

ummm....I guess I could let a few go
I sent you a PM

anyone else intersted ???

pm sent

KG Gary · 2006-12-23, 07:42 PM

I'm feeling really really good about my freesites lately. I'm starting to see the results of trying to learn more about why one site did well when another similar one didn't etc etc.
Build...submit...learn seems to be the way to go for me, rather than build...submit...forget.

I'm much more organised now than I have been since day one, and I'm genuinely looking forward to 2007's freesites & some gallery projects, along with developing some new domains and some cam sites. I'll be buying more content too as lately I've been using lots of sponsor content which I think has cost me a few listings.

I took dareutwo's advice recently and I now have a day-to-day structured plan starting in January, to enable me to stay on top of my freesite building instead of drifting into a new project and missing a couple of days of submits.
It really feels like I'm treating my business as a real business now, and I take a lot of pride in what I do.

Without the advice from GG&J and the members here I'd be in a completely different position, so I suggest reading those acceptance/rejection emails and digging deep into old threads now and then for some great help.
One of the best things is that here you can learn from the best in the biz - from good people that have done it all before and are kind enough to help for FREE! No sugar-coating, no bullshit, and a very tasty learning curve.
Making freesites doesn't suck!

SheepGuy · 2006-12-24, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy

ummm....I guess I could let a few go
I sent you a PM

anyone else intersted ???

I'm interested! I just do AVS sites though, I'll send you some samples if you'd like.

Actually, here are a few samples
http://www.clitmaster.com/yonge/
http://www.hotwetvagina.com/young_lesbians/
http://www.clitliquor.com/vanessa/
http://www.hotwetvagina.com/nakednative/
http://www.vaginamaster.com/germanpussy/

Friday · 2006-12-24, 11:37 AM

yes, me, i will send an PM verry soon

. thanks in advance

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy

ummm....I guess I could let a few go
I sent you a PM

anyone else intersted ???

HEAT · 2006-12-28, 01:47 AM

This is really nice thread

thecat · 2007-01-07, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy

ummm....I guess I could let a few go
I sent you a PM

anyone else intersted ???

I´m more than interested, I've been waiting this chance for years
Check your PM

2006-12-23, 07:42 PM	#58
KG Gary I can now put whatever I want in this space Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: South East UK Posts: 744	I'm feeling really really good about my freesites lately. I'm starting to see the results of trying to learn more about why one site did well when another similar one didn't etc etc. Build...submit...learn seems to be the way to go for me, rather than build...submit...forget. I'm much more organised now than I have been since day one, and I'm genuinely looking forward to 2007's freesites & some gallery projects, along with developing some new domains and some cam sites. I'll be buying more content too as lately I've been using lots of sponsor content which I think has cost me a few listings. I took dareutwo's advice recently and I now have a day-to-day structured plan starting in January, to enable me to stay on top of my freesite building instead of drifting into a new project and missing a couple of days of submits. It really feels like I'm treating my business as a real business now, and I take a lot of pride in what I do. Without the advice from GG&J and the members here I'd be in a completely different position, so I suggest reading those acceptance/rejection emails and digging deep into old threads now and then for some great help. One of the best things is that here you can learn from the best in the biz - from good people that have done it all before and are kind enough to help for FREE! No sugar-coating, no bullshit, and a very tasty learning curve. Making freesites doesn't suck! __________________ Sponsors that used to convert with freesites Over 700 clean freesites

2006-12-22, 06:54 AM	#51
JD Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 107	Hi Tommy Any chance of a submit pass? Or when will you be releasing some more of them HowlingWulf Thanks for the post, nice to have some positive feedback. Right now 5k would be fantastic, would pay the stupid mortgage and live off it. At the moment, my last sale was like a week and a half ago, and thats with submitting at least a free site a day to 60 odd link lists. Its just so slow and painful at the moment. How long have you been at it for? What do you use for your submitting? I was using chameleon a while ago, with no paid passes though, just a few partner accounts and all the other sites in the database. With your galleries, do you make them yourself or use the FHG ones and upload them? WIth so many thousands of FHG released every day, do you think its ok to use them on your own server for submitting with? Good stuff with the work anyhow, I am so humble these days, I dont know what its like to make 5k a month anymore, so I consider you a big guy in terms of money, so there lol ronnie Thanks a lot for the link to that program and your advice also, all taken in and appreciated, regards JD

2006-12-22, 12:33 PM	#52
HowlingWulf Me fail English? That's unpossible! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: FL Posts: 1,381	Hmm I 'started' about 6 or 7 years ago, and it took me awhile to get into it fully. I wish I knew then what I know now. For submitting, I use my own script which is similar to G.A.S.S. it keeps a database of sites and creates mirror pages of my gallery based on niche and recips based on size. I use Arles to help create the gallery and Irfanview to hand crop images as needed. I type the html code by hand with a VI editor. I submit by hand to each site on my list (about 50), with some filling help with Roboform. Never submit FHG to sites or even use those designs. TGP owners list those themselves and won't accept them from submitters, some will even ban you for that. Spend some time surfing some big TGP sites, the top galleries usually have great designs. Mine are rather simple in comparison I dont use any fancy graphics.

2006-12-23, 01:07 PM	#53
remote Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: .se Posts: 22	Without having seen any of the freesites, hubs, galleries etc from anyone in this thread, I would have to say that, its not the 90s anymore, u cant just pump out stuff and forget it and expect the money to come. You have to make sure you sell! something, and not just provide free porn to the surfer. We are in marketing, not public service. Work on the ads, read books, tutorials whatever on marketing. Positioning, text, colors, tease, psychology, and so on and on. Oh, and last, only quitters quit. NEVER! give up. Merry xmas ppl!

2006-12-23, 06:00 PM	#55
Jonno Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK Posts: 16	Hi Tommy I'd certainly be interested in a chance to post with you. I have really enjoyed reading this thread over the last few days. It makes me feel more a part of this business knowing that there are others out there that are experiencing the same problems and frustrations that I have had. It is also good to know that if you work hard, play by the rules and keep plugging away the chance to make a few buck is still out there. I hope everyone has a great holiday season and a happy healthy and prosperous new year.

2006-12-28, 01:47 AM	#61
HEAT Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5	This is really nice thread