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Old 2007-03-01, 08:32 AM   #1
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you can have them share the same database...
The snag being if that database gets mangled, none of your blogs will work: something which would usually only happen with more widespread server/SQLserver issues.
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Old 2007-03-01, 09:27 AM   #2
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The snag being if that database gets mangled, none of your blogs will work: something which would usually only happen with more widespread server/SQLserver issues.
If you run a business there are certain things you need to do to maintain that business and keep it safe. In the brick and mortar world, you sweep the floors, take out the trash, lock the doors and set the alarms. If your running a web business, you backup your sites on a regular basis, which includes your databases so that if / when an emergency happens you are in a position to pickup the pieces.

Of course I had to learn this the hard way by losing a couple databases. Except according to your theory, that probably shouldn't have happened because I was only running one blog per database. Since then, by doing proper maintenance and keeping daily backups, I haven't lost a thing and it has been over a year and I'm much more active than I was then.
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Old 2007-03-01, 09:40 AM   #3
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Of course I had to learn this the hard way by losing a couple databases. Except according to your theory, that probably shouldn't have happened because I was only running one blog per database.
I'm not sure why such a prickly response...

If one is offering advice or suggestions, isn't it reasonable to point out the pro's and con's of the various options, so that people can make informed choices? In any case, what does my observation have to do with the sense of regular maintenance? Or vice versa...

You pointed out that a single database is possible for multiple sites. I pointed out a potential drawback. Not exactly the stuff of drama.
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Old 2007-03-01, 12:36 PM   #4
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I didn't think I was necessarily being prickly nor creating drama, I simply stated why I believe your con was invalid.
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Old 2007-03-01, 04:50 PM   #5
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The snag being if that database gets mangled, none of your blogs will work: something which would usually only happen with more widespread server/SQLserver issues.
you mean as if i lost the database? or does the sharing database create some conflicts on the blogs? or does sharing it mess up the whole database?
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Old 2007-03-01, 07:09 PM   #6
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you mean as if i lost the database? or does the sharing database create some conflicts on the blogs? or does sharing it mess up the whole database?
Damn, I forgot to use the nifty little multi-quote feature. Anyway he means that is something were to happen to the database itself it would affect all the blogs tied to that database.

Sharing the database does not create conflicts and sharing does not mess it up. His stance is that the more you access the database, the greater the chance of some type of corruption.
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Old 2007-03-05, 11:15 AM   #7
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His stance is that the more you access the database, the greater the chance of some type of corruption.
That is a consideration, but my view had more to do with there being two things which cause SQL-based sites to fall over (apart from the same issues which affect any site): problems with the SQL server and database corruption. The former will bring down all your sites, whether or not they share databases. The latter (usually) only affects the site(s) using the damaged database.

Since it only takes a few seconds to give each site its own database, I prefer to do so. I'm still not clear why Walrus assumed I was implying anything about the wider aspects of maintenance etc., from that choice.
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Since it only takes a few seconds to give each site its own database, I prefer to do so. I'm still not clear why Walrus assumed I was implying anything about the wider aspects of maintenance etc., from that choice.
Probably cause you caught me on a bad day when I was already in a pissy mood over something totally unrelated.

But thats only a guess, since I would never admit such things actually happened.
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Probably cause you caught me on a bad day when I was already in a pissy mood over something totally unrelated.

But thats only a guess, since I would never admit such things actually happened.
I thought it was because somebody had pissed in your Cheerios
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