I've Pulled Hardlink Trades - You May Want To Read This

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by dallasdeb

I thought his post was funny. I thought the other post was hilarious.
When did you lose your sense of humor?

[oldbrad]

I just started using the google webmaster tools to check how it see's my sites. Not sure if it would show why it may be ranking your sites different, at least as far as tbpr, but have you guys tried using it to see what they see?

[plateman]

yeah jennyM since my no PR pages are aired out to the public how about yours....you said you didnt have any

http://adultlinkpost.com/nude-redhead02.htm cashe date feb 2nd 07

captainJ has them also http://debauchery.com/free-sex-pics-teens_2.html 0 PR and a march cashe date

young and teen girl all over the place, maybe thats why is has a 0 pr google assumes its a bad neighborhood

you be surprised who all has supp pages and no pr pages and free sites now since google is a cock

[jennym]

Originally Posted by plateman

yeah jennyM since my no PR pages are aired out to the public how about yours....you said you didnt have any

http://adultlinkpost.com/nude-redhead02.htm cashe date feb 2nd 07

captainJ has them also http://debauchery.com/free-sex-pics-teens_2.html 0 PR and a march cashe date

young and teen girl all over the place, maybe thats why is has a 0 pr google assumes its a bad neighborhood

you be surprised who all has supp pages and no pr pages and free sites now since google is a cock

You are kidding me right?? You did all of that research just to show a couple of pages that were CREATED in January?? I believe I said I had never LOST PR...not that I didn't have any pages that were PR0. And, a cache date of Feb 2nd on a page created the end of Jan is not too bad...wouldn't you agree?

[plateman]

Originally Posted by jennym

You are kidding me right?? You did all of that research just to show a couple of pages that were CREATED in January?? I believe I said I had never LOST PR...not that I didn't have any pages that were PR0. And, a cache date of Feb 2nd on a page created the end of Jan is not too bad...wouldn't you agree?

well If you created that page in jan going by your group it's already penilized

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:...&start=10&sa=N

adultlinkpost.com/nude-redhead02.htm - 23k - Supplemental Result

[jennym]

Originally Posted by plateman

well If you created that page in jan going by your group it's already penilized

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:...&start=10&sa=N

adultlinkpost.com/nude-redhead02.htm - 23k - Supplemental Result

LOL
Based on the info YOU supplied, the supplemental is based on PR. That page hasn't achieved PR yet, therefore being in the SI is no biggie. My other BRAND NEW pages are there as well.

[CaptainJSparrow]

Plateman, I don't get you. You attack, then apologize, then attack again. You keep making references to me because I pulled your link. Hell man, your whole site, except for your index page, has got some sort of problem. Sorry, it's not my fault that something happened to your site. If I knew what it was, I'd certainly tell you, but I don't. Read my original post in this thread.

Guys, ya'll've saved me from having to start a post. I've spent the last week looking over my link trades and deleting the bad ones. I had some that were trying to install viruses, a bunch that have been penalized by google and have pr=0 on their category pages, and alot that did just what was mentioned above...no new content, changed up the pages to just ads, etc. Hence, be forewarned (Ok, it's really after the fact because I've already pulled'em) I have pulled all links that I thought would be detrimental to my site to be linked to.

I was going to start a post letting folks know that I pulled some bad pages from my links section. I had no intention of doing it and not bringing it to their attention...just the fact that I posted here shows that. Most of what I pulled had the same kind of things that Preacher pulled when he started this thread.

Yes Plateman, I pulled the links to your category pages, in my judgement they have the potential to be detrimental to my site. I don't know this for sure and I had no intention of broadcasting this to everyone...you did that. Had you PM'd me I would've been glad to share everything that I know, and my theories, with you, and explain why I felt it necessary to pull the links to your category pages.

Now you're going to "throw shit at the fan" and try to point out that I have some pr=0 pages? You are correct. The particular page that you pointed out is a secondary page for that section that I created recently. It has currently has no incoming links so I doubt that it has a penalty from Google. I do have 26 pages in the supplemental index...let's not forget about that. Do you know how many you have in the supplemental index? I do. Matter of fact, that weighed more in my decision to pull the links to your category pages than the pr=0.

My intent was not to attack you, or bring up your dirty laundry in public. Understand, I am not obligated to link with you nor do I need your permission to pull your links. All that honor dictates is that I let you know about it and this post certainly meets that.

[plateman]

captainJ I am pulling the index trade we have

jennyM the same thing

spaceman the same thing

and thats it, I just dont wanna link to your sites anymore

[jennym]

Originally Posted by plateman

captainJ I am pulling the index trade we have

jennyM the same thing

spaceman the same thing

and thats it, I just dont wanna link to your sites anymore

I really can't believe people act this way over a business discussion. I never once dissed you or your sites. But...whatever. Your links have been pulled. Don't forget we traded on main page and submit page as well.

[plateman]

Originally Posted by jennym

I really can't believe people act this way over a business discussion. I never once dissed you or your sites. But...whatever. Your links have been pulled. Don't forget we traded on main page and submit page as well.

Yup I know all gone here

[CaptainJSparrow]

No prob plateman. I truly hope your site loses it's penalty and that you end up doing well.

[plateman]

Originally Posted by CaptainJSparrow

No prob plateman. I truly hope your site loses it's penalty and that you end up doing well.

its not a penalty read what matt cutts says about

As a reminder, supplemental results aren’t something to be afraid of; I’ve got pages from my site in the supplemental results, for example. A complete software rewrite of the infrastructure for supplemental results launched in Summer o’ 2005, and the supplemental results continue to get fresher. Having urls in the supplemental results doesn’t mean that you have some sort of penalty at all; the main determinant of whether a url is in our main web index or in the supplemental index is PageRank. If you used to have pages in our main web index and now they’re in the supplemental results, a good hypothesis is that we might not be counting links to your pages with the same weight as we have in the past. The approach I’d recommend in that case is to use solid white-hat SEO to get high-quality links (e.g. editorially given by other sites on the basis of merit).

[Useless]

Honesty, from the bottom of my heart, with every bit of sincerity that I can conjure forth, I truly hope that you all continue to ignore Bill's advice and allow your little lists to crumble. I could really use that very minor boost in traffic.

My new slogan: Live by Google. Die by Google.

[jennym]

Originally Posted by plateman

its not a penalty read what matt cutts says about

Having urls in the supplemental results doesn’t mean that you have some sort of penalty at all; the main determinant of whether a url is in our main web index or in the supplemental index is PageRank. If you used to have pages in our main web index and now they’re in the supplemental results, a good hypothesis is that we might not be counting links to your pages with the same weight as we have in the past. The approach I’d recommend in that case is to use solid white-hat SEO to get high-quality links (e.g. editorially given by other sites on the basis of merit).

I am sorry, but that sounds EXACTLY like a penalty to me.
Not necessarily a "you are doing something bad" penalty, but a "we are doing something different, and don't like this" penalty from Google.
You seem to think for some reason this is personal, and that couldn't be further from the truth. I am truly sorry you felt personally attacked. I simply wanted to have a nice business discussion, and find out what others were thinking. Unfortunately, very few people participated in the discussion, and it turned into an emotional debate instead of a business one.

[Jel]

An interesting read for sure. As of a few weeks ago I've been trying to think of a way to change my existing trades that are recipricol into a>b>c trades, with my new LL being the 'C' link. Unfortunately it means work on the part of my link partners changing links they have to my old(er) LL to the new one.

As a general question that might even get a bit lost within this thread, is it safe to assume that generally speaking people would be ok doing some changes on their LLs to benefit both parties by creating a>b>c links, which definitely seems to be what Google prefers?

I'd hate to open another can of worms and piss off my existing trades by asking them to point my links they have up to another page and create a 'fuck me Jel is more trouble trading with than it's worth' scenario.

For the record, some of my internal pages on cfnmparty.co.uk have recently gone to PR0 and show in supplemental results. So I've probably been dropped by some anyway

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Preacher

...And I gave something to talk about on Tuesday night so you should all be thanking me or all we'd hear about is hi-def programming and hockey results!

Oh now that's just not right!

And I'm moving all thaqt stuff to my blog

Originally Posted by jennym

...and I would like to point out that many people here think you are an arrogant, condescending prick who never "joins" a discussion, but simply degrades everyone you believe to be of inferior intelligence.

While that may be true, I have to admit, the guy knows his shit.

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by Greenie

the guy knows his shit.

That is very true - and fortunately one of the nicest guys Ive worked with in the industry

Oh...and HI DEB!!!!

[plateman]

Originally Posted by Linkster

That is very true - and fortunately one of the nicest guys Ive worked with in the industry

Oh...and HI DEB!!!!

yup he is, DD is good people in my book and the friends of his that I know are too

[jennym]

Since this thread is obviously not going to be productive, I will make a few comments, and bow out.

Originally Posted by Linkster

That is very true - and fortunately one of the nicest guys Ive worked with in the industry

I have never said DD was an idiot. I just have a problem with his delivery. He basically comes in, says "all of you are fucking idiots" and leaves. That being said, I am sure he has been pleasant in personal dealings with some people.
However.......

Originally Posted by plateman

yup he is, DD is good people in my book and the friends of his that I know are too

He is great? All his friends are great? This just comes off as typical message board ass licking.

Since it is obvious from this thread that I can be a bitch, I will concede that fact. But, I am not here to kiss ass or stroke egos. I will bring up what I think is a discussion worthy topic. And, if I believe I am doing the right thing, I will defend it to the end. At the end of the day, there will be those that disagree, and that is fine with me. There are certainly no hard feelings on my end over a business discussion. I won't pull links, decline sites, or be a bitch to someone in the future based on a message board disagreement. It certainly wouldn't have caused me to pull plateman's links. If any of you feel differently, then you should back up, take a deep breath, and maybe come back later.

On that note....happy Friday the 13th to all

[ronnie]

I got the same e-mail as Linkster and I was thinking the same way as Bill. I also was hit up on ICQ by another webmaster saying basically the same thing. I was going to start a thread the other day, see how many people are doing this, as one person told me "many" webmasters are taking about this, though I've only seen a couple mention it.

Like Bill is saying, how many webmasters are not going to get the links down right away. Also, how many won't even know about it? And why are these people not posting on the boards to try and let every one know?

[plateman]

someone pm me the LL that is doing this or hit me up

[NY Jester]

Wow, thats some pretty harsh words..couldnt this of been done in a PM?

[Useless]

Note to self: plateman is a very angry individual.

[CaptainJSparrow]

Plateman? Sorry, do I know you? FYI, on sexontheinternet I didn't mess with any links, a webmaster working for our company did that and to my knowledge he let the folks that had link trades on that site know about it prior to doing it. I don't work that site at all, never have.

CJS

[plateman]

Originally Posted by CaptainJSparrow

Plateman? Sorry, do I know you? FYI, on sexontheinternet I didn't mess with any links, a webmaster working for our company did that and to my knowledge he let the folks that had link trades on that site know about it prior to doing it. I don't work that site at all, never have.

CJS

I never had anyone contact me, our link trading is over, so have a nice fuckin day