I've Pulled Hardlink Trades - You May Want To Read This

Useless · 2007-04-11, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by spacemanspiff

mainly deleting sites that were penalized

What's your evidence?

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Originally Posted by CaptainJSparrow

a bunch that have been penalized by google and have pr=0 on their category pages

PR 0 - So what? Penalized? How do you know?

I can never tell if I understand nothing about SEO or more than most.

Greenguy · 2007-04-11, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

What's your evidence?
PR 0 - So what? Penalized? How do you know?

I can never tell if I understand nothing about SEO or more than most.

PR makes people think my dick is bigger

Trade traffic, not PR.

Licker4U · 2007-04-11, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

PR 0 - So what?

Are you saying a site with PR 0 can still have a lot of good traffic? I'm only asking not to question you but because I don't know any of this stuff. Off the cuff I would say PR doesn't mean squat.

Greenguy · 2007-04-11, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Licker4U

Are you saying a site with PR 0 can still have a lot of good traffic? I'm only asking not to question you but because I don't know any of this stuff. Off the cuff I would say PR doesn't mean squat.

Think of it this way: would you rather have 1000 blind hits from a PR5 site or 1000 legit hits from a PR0 site?

And while I don't believe the PR hype anyway, back when I did, the PR was for the domain & not for individual pages (and this is probably still true, I just don;t care enough to pay attention)

So just because a category (page) has a PR0 should not effect how much traffic it has or the quality of the traffic.

Example:
http://www.link-o-rama.com/greenguy/nipples.htm - PR0
This page has traffic - and more to the point, this page has very targeted traffic.

And as always, with any SE advice (especially from me) this is all just opinion

Bill · 2007-04-11, 03:56 PM

Pulling links without telling people you are pulling them is a dangerous practice.

Captain and Spaceman - I've got a lot of old links with you guys on a number of domains, do I have to sit here and wonder if you are going to fuck me on them, and vampirize relevance from my network of pages?

I'm glad to see you are both reviewing again on your main sites, and have stopped this practice of not reviewing (at least on your main sites).

But this business of dropping links without notice is bad for everybody, and could end up causing a lot of trouble for everybody.

If we can't trust linking partners, if linking becomes an exercise in who betrays who first, where does it stop?

spacemanspiff · 2007-04-11, 04:45 PM

Read my post Bill. I said I would contact everyone I could find contact information for. I just wanted to make a post here too because looking through a few of the trades I noticed that I don't have an email saved in my trades folder, and there's no contact info on the sites. In retrospect I probably should have insisted that all trades be done through email so there would be a record.

So far the only thing I've deleted are a couple of domains that redirect all the category specific links to the index page, a domain that's parked, and a few that are so over-the-top bad that they just had to go. I sent emails to the webmasters on those. I'm betting they won't even see them.

As regards our other trades, I'm not fooling with them at all, and I would certainly give you a heads up if I ever did.

Linkster · 2007-04-11, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by spacemanspiff

Read my post Bill. I said I would contact everyone I could find contact information for. .

Thats a good outlook - unfortunately I guess there are others that feel that they should just pull links based on their own opinions without notifying anyone and get the benefit derived from having PR3 and 4 category links pointing back to their category pages

Useless · 2007-04-11, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Licker4U

Are you saying a site with PR 0 can still have a lot of good traffic? I'm only asking not to question you but because I don't know any of this stuff. Off the cuff I would say PR doesn't mean squat.

PR is NOT what people think it is. If it was, when you pulled a Google search for any certain term or phrase, the results would be listed by PR in descending order; PR 10s, then PR 9s and so on. PR is not an indication of anything other than PR.

Do some searches right now and see how PR2s and 3s appear before PR5s and 6s. PR is a form of voodoo to keep you from seeing the truth.

Bill · 2007-04-11, 05:32 PM

I'm glad to hear that Spaceman, and I want to be clear that i'm reacting to this more as a general subject than worrying about specific links. If I spoke too aggressively or unclearly my apologies.

I still think that dropping links is a risky business. Just the other day I was transforming an old domain and found two links that looked bad - one went to a "domain for sale" page, the other went to a site I didn't recognize at all, one that looked as tho it had been expired and snapped up by domain speculators.

I asked about those names here, and I'm glad I did, because one name turned out to be Linksters and the other Jays - both guys who have been generous with links in the past, and who I am comfortable linking to, no matter what their domains are doing.

If you feel you need to drop a link to protect a domain, and the linker hasn't started downloading viruses or suchlike shit, you ought to consider transfering the link to another of your domains.

(I understand this gets complicated, and like me you probably have many links where you've forgotten who the link is too and where to return link is supposed to be coming from - I'm just saying don't slash-and-burn links without giving it some extra thought.)

Linking is about trust. Once we start breaking down that trust, once people see people like yourself (who have a past reputation for good linking) saying they are dropping links, it starts a process of the legitimization of link dropping for personal benefit that will hurt us all.

I've told people that you and Captain are trustworthy linkers - so if you guys talk of dropping links, that threatens everyone who links. Which is why I feel the need to speak up about it.

2007-04-11, 04:45 PM	#6
spacemanspiff Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Looz-e-anna Posts: 1,015	Read my post Bill. I said I would contact everyone I could find contact information for. I just wanted to make a post here too because looking through a few of the trades I noticed that I don't have an email saved in my trades folder, and there's no contact info on the sites. In retrospect I probably should have insisted that all trades be done through email so there would be a record. So far the only thing I've deleted are a couple of domains that redirect all the category specific links to the index page, a domain that's parked, and a few that are so over-the-top bad that they just had to go. I sent emails to the webmasters on those. I'm betting they won't even see them. As regards our other trades, I'm not fooling with them at all, and I would certainly give you a heads up if I ever did. __________________ Submit your free sites to Free Sex Pics

2007-04-11, 03:56 PM	#5
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Pulling links without telling people you are pulling them is a dangerous practice. Captain and Spaceman - I've got a lot of old links with you guys on a number of domains, do I have to sit here and wonder if you are going to fuck me on them, and vampirize relevance from my network of pages? I'm glad to see you are both reviewing again on your main sites, and have stopped this practice of not reviewing (at least on your main sites). But this business of dropping links without notice is bad for everybody, and could end up causing a lot of trouble for everybody. If we can't trust linking partners, if linking becomes an exercise in who betrays who first, where does it stop?

2007-04-11, 05:32 PM	#9
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	I'm glad to hear that Spaceman, and I want to be clear that i'm reacting to this more as a general subject than worrying about specific links. If I spoke too aggressively or unclearly my apologies. I still think that dropping links is a risky business. Just the other day I was transforming an old domain and found two links that looked bad - one went to a "domain for sale" page, the other went to a site I didn't recognize at all, one that looked as tho it had been expired and snapped up by domain speculators. I asked about those names here, and I'm glad I did, because one name turned out to be Linksters and the other Jays - both guys who have been generous with links in the past, and who I am comfortable linking to, no matter what their domains are doing. If you feel you need to drop a link to protect a domain, and the linker hasn't started downloading viruses or suchlike shit, you ought to consider transfering the link to another of your domains. (I understand this gets complicated, and like me you probably have many links where you've forgotten who the link is too and where to return link is supposed to be coming from - I'm just saying don't slash-and-burn links without giving it some extra thought.) Linking is about trust. Once we start breaking down that trust, once people see people like yourself (who have a past reputation for good linking) saying they are dropping links, it starts a process of the legitimization of link dropping for personal benefit that will hurt us all. I've told people that you and Captain are trustworthy linkers - so if you guys talk of dropping links, that threatens everyone who links. Which is why I feel the need to speak up about it.