Google's 950 Penalty

Bill · 2007-05-17, 10:48 PM

Yes, but thats very old.

You seem to be saying you have some new reason to believe that the linking thats been going on has either been (1) newly marked by google as somehow illegitimate, or (2) has somehow changed or grown to the point where it is hurting everybody when it used to help.

I was just wondering if there is some new reason you think this?

Bill · 2007-05-17, 10:54 PM

You said "it's no doubt that its a penalty".

I think it's just as likely that it's simply the way the new algos score and therefore rank a site.

I haven't seen yet a good piece of evidence that it's a flag or a penalty.

I understand you guys think it's a penalty, but I don't think you can claim that just because you are suddenly dropped in the serps, that it's caused by a penalty, when a algo change in ranking determinates is just as possible, and given what I think we know about google, more likely.

When I ask this question about networks, I'm asking, do you have some new evidence that it's networks, and not the other more publicized factors, that are causing this.

For all I know you have good evidence - I just haven't seen it, or heard anything that I think supports it, yet.

Bill · 2007-05-17, 11:33 PM

I think this question of networks is of critical importance, so I want to keep on asking certain questions about it, questions that very much determine the tactics and strategy of solving this problem for we adult businessmen.

If the crash in rankings is a matter of networks, then:

(1) Why aren't some of the TGPs being affected?

(2) Where could one position a adult sites like ours without being in a network?

(3) If ALL clusters of sites (for example grandma scrotums modest little personal network) are now networks that google penalizes, how could one ever escape networks?

(4) If some networks are worse than others, how could you possibly tell which network is good and which one is bad?

(5) I'm fully aware that you have a network, as do most of us here in this conversation. Why do you believe that google would decide your network is good, but someone elses is bad?

I think question 2 is the most important tactically. How would it be possible to create a profitable adult site that isn't somehow tied to a network?

If just creating a standalone domain with no "risky" links to possibly bad networks was enough to grab #1s again, why do you think we haven't all discovered this already?

2007-05-17, 10:48 PM	#1
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Yes, but thats very old. You seem to be saying you have some new reason to believe that the linking thats been going on has either been (1) newly marked by google as somehow illegitimate, or (2) has somehow changed or grown to the point where it is hurting everybody when it used to help. I was just wondering if there is some new reason you think this?

2007-05-17, 10:54 PM	#2
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	You said "it's no doubt that its a penalty". I think it's just as likely that it's simply the way the new algos score and therefore rank a site. I haven't seen yet a good piece of evidence that it's a flag or a penalty. I understand you guys think it's a penalty, but I don't think you can claim that just because you are suddenly dropped in the serps, that it's caused by a penalty, when a algo change in ranking determinates is just as possible, and given what I think we know about google, more likely. When I ask this question about networks, I'm asking, do you have some new evidence that it's networks, and not the other more publicized factors, that are causing this. For all I know you have good evidence - I just haven't seen it, or heard anything that I think supports it, yet.

2007-05-17, 11:33 PM	#3
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	I think this question of networks is of critical importance, so I want to keep on asking certain questions about it, questions that very much determine the tactics and strategy of solving this problem for we adult businessmen. If the crash in rankings is a matter of networks, then: (1) Why aren't some of the TGPs being affected? (2) Where could one position a adult sites like ours without being in a network? (3) If ALL clusters of sites (for example grandma scrotums modest little personal network) are now networks that google penalizes, how could one ever escape networks? (4) If some networks are worse than others, how could you possibly tell which network is good and which one is bad? (5) I'm fully aware that you have a network, as do most of us here in this conversation. Why do you believe that google would decide your network is good, but someone elses is bad? I think question 2 is the most important tactically. How would it be possible to create a profitable adult site that isn't somehow tied to a network? If just creating a standalone domain with no "risky" links to possibly bad networks was enough to grab #1s again, why do you think we haven't all discovered this already?