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Old 2007-08-31, 06:14 PM   #1
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Seperate topic, but have you gotten a response to your reinclusion test yet?

Referring to your alexa thoughts - it's been my opinion for a while that since tgps have tended not to suffer as much as linklists in this new google, that looking at tgps might give us useful clues.

So it confirms that line of thought to hear that alexa drops tgps at the same time that a noticable bump happens for lls.

However, you say that major lls also suffered a drop.
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Old 2007-08-31, 06:51 PM   #2
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Im waiting out for the other shoe to drop - Ive basically been out of Google on one LL for exactly one year - and came back 2 days ago - I have two theories on what is happening but I will only talk about one right now
DMOZ has reorganized their index and setup on their servers over the last few months - for as long as I can remember they have been set up with really bad mirrors and canonical problems - and have fixed that recently so that everything comes from the www.dmoz.org site now - and since we know that google has always given a special meaning to dmoz links and they also automatically give you a link from google as well - and given that google has been reindexing dmoz into their directory like a buzzing bee for the last week or so - maybe this is partly a fallout of that

The other theory starts with they have removed some filters from last years big daddy update - but I cant prove that one yet - we'll have to wait and see what happens at the end of the summer when they normally put all filters back on

A third and less appealing theory has to do with individual sites - and not worth discussing as I dont have any proof - yet
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Old 2007-08-31, 08:25 PM   #3
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Yep Bill, both link lists and tgp's show a drop over the last few days at Alexa, at least most of the ones that I looked at. One of the things that I did was a search at google for "free sex pics" and looked at all of the tgp's (all of the top 10 were tgp's) and all but #10 showed a drop. Then I looked at some of the bigger link lists like penisbot, hoes, etc. Everyone showed that drop.

On our re-inclusion request, nothing. We haven't seen traffic go up or down and haven't heard a peep from google. Don't even know if they've read it. It's been a bit over a month now, I believe.
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Old 2007-09-06, 05:38 AM   #4
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Ive basically been out of Google on one LL for exactly one year - and came back 2 days ago
Same here, been scoring ok with my old keywords for a week now.
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Old 2007-09-06, 09:22 AM   #5
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Jay, you got a pretty big site. Do you see Google sending traffic to any of your pages that used to be labeled supplemental?
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Old 2007-09-07, 04:32 AM   #6
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Jay, you got a pretty big site. Do you see Google sending traffic to any of your pages that used to be labeled supplemental?
Last I checked Google stopped using supplementals:
http://searchengineland.com/070731-215828.php

Or at least stopped saying they did...lol.
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Old 2007-09-07, 04:41 AM   #7
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Im waiting out for the other shoe to drop - Ive basically been out of Google on one LL for exactly one year - and came back 2 days ago - I have two theories on what is happening but I will only talk about one right now
DMOZ has reorganized their index and setup on their servers over the last few months - for as long as I can remember they have been set up with really bad mirrors and canonical problems - and have fixed that recently so that everything comes from the www.dmoz.org site now - and since we know that google has always given a special meaning to dmoz links and they also automatically give you a link from google as well - and given that google has been reindexing dmoz into their directory like a buzzing bee for the last week or so - maybe this is partly a fallout of that

The other theory starts with they have removed some filters from last years big daddy update - but I cant prove that one yet - we'll have to wait and see what happens at the end of the summer when they normally put all filters back on

A third and less appealing theory has to do with individual sites - and not worth discussing as I dont have any proof - yet
Interesting theory on DMOZ. Do you really think DMOZ is still relavant? I don't even submit to it anymore and I saw some of the biggest upward moves in the SERP of some of my smaller domains that were not listed.

Hit me on ICQ about that 3rd theory. I have a few ideas myself.
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Old 2007-09-07, 08:07 AM   #8
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Last I checked Google stopped using supplementals
No Jay, Google just stopped showing the supplemental label. Instead of displaying the label, Google hinted that by the end of the summer they'll start sending more traffic to pages that used to be labeled supplemental.
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Old 2007-09-07, 11:35 AM   #9
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No Jay, Google just stopped showing the supplemental label. Instead of displaying the label, Google hinted that by the end of the summer they'll start sending more traffic to pages that used to be labeled supplemental.
I wish they would... They totally wiped out my mainstream adsense income with that supplemental shit.
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Old 2007-09-08, 12:00 AM   #10
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No Jay, Google just stopped showing the supplemental label. Instead of displaying the label, Google hinted that by the end of the summer they'll start sending more traffic to pages that used to be labeled supplemental.
LOL...wasn't that pretty much what I just said?
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Old 2007-09-08, 09:37 AM   #11
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LOL...wasn't that pretty much what I just said?
No, you said "Google stopped using supplementals" which isn't true. The only thing Google stopped using is the supplemental label. Google still puts pages in the supplemental index. Google is just hiding the fact to keep webmasters from obsessing over supplemental results.

For example, your site, Jay's XXX Links, has ~1,070 pages in the main index. The rest of your site (~12,000 pages) is supplemental.

I'm just wondering if you see an increase in traffic from those 12,000+ pages.
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