Back in Porn after 6 years, things have changed!

[Ronzo]

I may be totally off base with this comment, but one of the significant changes that's taken place in this business while you were gone is all that encompasses the 2257 issue. Because of this, it seems most diligent web builders are placing any and all explicit content after their warning page... this includes ads. You've got a fairly explicit graphic on your "warning" page that a surfer actually encounters before they see your "adult content disclaimer". Seems to me this appears as an "after the fact" thing that suggests an air of irresponsibility. I'm not saying it could or would be the source of a problem. But, from a "professional" standpoint, it just might look better to keep the explicit stuff either below or inside the warning page.

[Orpheus]

True, but as the entry page to this site is not in the root directory of the domain and will not be linked from the root directory of the domain without explicit warnings, the surfer will have washed up from an adult link list and will be fully aware of what they are going to get IMHO. It's really unlikely that the warning page for this free site will get linked by a search engine, but I maybe wrong.

BTW, how does 2257 stand when my server and myself are located in the UK?

[Ronzo]

I'm no expert on 2257, but as a UK resident I don't think our FBI could do much about you... and that obviously makes for a less restrictive approach to what you do. So, my previous comment is a moot point. BTW, Welcome back!

[ArtWilliams]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

I'm no expert on 2257, but as a UK resident I don't think our FBI could do much about you... and that obviously makes for a less restrictive approach to what you do. So, my previous comment is a moot point. BTW, Welcome back!

... unless you travel to or through the U.S.A.

[tigermom]

Originally Posted by artwilliams

... unless you travel to or through the U.S.A.

What are they going to do then? The whole 2257 is about coming over to inspect your offices. Say you travel through the US, how can they prove that you don't keep 2257 records? Also, how can they even arrest you for, or hold you for questioning over a law that's applicable to the US territory only where the act was performed in another country? Have you ever heard of any visiting webmaster who has been questioned or investigated over this while visiting?

I can see how they may arrest foreigners over real suspicions of involvement in production/trafficking in CP, not over something of such an administrative nature as 2257.

I'm not a lawyer of course, I could be wrong. Just wondering if anyone has heard of anything like that in regards to visiting webmasters?

Also, to the original OP- the hardcore/explicit banners on the warning page isn't a moot point. Nothing to do with protecting your surfers, as much as some LL's possibly rejecting your FS for that.

[ArtWilliams]

Originally Posted by tigermom

What are they going to do then? The whole 2257 is about coming over to inspect your offices. Say you travel through the US, how can they prove that you don't keep 2257 records? Also, how can they even arrest you for, or hold you for questioning over a law that's applicable to the US territory only where the act was performed in another country? Have you ever heard of any visiting webmaster who has been questioned or investigated over this while visiting?

I can see how they may arrest foreigners over real suspicions of involvement in production/trafficking in CP, not over something of such an administrative nature as 2257.

I'm not a lawyer of course, I could be wrong. Just wondering if anyone has heard of anything like that in regards to visiting webmasters?

Also, to the original OP- the hardcore/explicit banners on the warning page isn't a moot point. Nothing to do with protecting your surfers, as much as some LL's possibly rejecting your FS for that.

True, they can't visit your place to inspect records if you live in a foreign country. My point is, I am just saying that many webmasters believe that they are exempt from American law. That's not true if you visit the states. It true about obscenity or any other American law.

[Orpheus]

Originally Posted by artwilliams

... unless you travel to or through the U.S.A.

Well... due to being convicted under the UK's Computer Misuse Act for computer hacking back in '98, I can't travel to the U.S.A. without a full interview and assessment by the US Embassy in London. I wanted to go to a bash in Vegas organised by C.A.O cigars a few years ago and was told by my lawyer that I could try to get through the interview but considering what I was convicted for and the Bush administrations view on this crime I would be, to paraphrase him 'pissing into the wind!' lol

[SheepGuy]

Hey Orpheus, I'm in the same boat
Not hacking for me, but a late night phone call to a Mr Reagan when I was young drunk and foolish Persona non grata in the USA. I could likely fight it, but why bother

[tigermom]

Originally Posted by SheepGuy

Hey Orpheus, I'm in the same boat
Not hacking for me, but a late night phone call to a Mr Reagan when I was young drunk and foolish Persona non grata in the USA. I could likely fight it, but why bother

You managed to call the US president??? Oh wait, you didn't mention if he actually was the one to take the call lol I wonder what you told him to make you a persona non grata?