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Old 2007-09-18, 08:25 AM   #1
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What about customers? We could use some extra ones ... And I think it might happen as well - when inflation comes and jobs are closed people start drinking and watching porn (I hope)
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Receptor has the question right... What about customers? We did talk about this some time ago but I don't think anyone really knows.
Yep, just put your money into buying pawn shops and liquor stores and you'll do just fine.

Actually I'm wondering when sponsors will start retooling their affiliate programs to take the USA and worldwide economies into more account. I'm not sure that $30/month (and more) for a monthly membership is going to continue to work as well as some other pricing options.

And I'm not talking about more free trials or short-term paid trials, which are meaningless if the monthly prices stay at the same levels. I'm referring to having much lower monthly memberships for full-blown paysites that aren't just filled with upsells to 'full memberships' and links to other paysites. I mean memberships that you're glad you paid for, especially at the price you paid, and that you're not rushing to cancel right after you join.

We all know there's way too much free porn out there. I think what's needed are ways to convince a lot more of the current free porn surfers to spend some (small amount of) money in order to get access to much better porn. If we don't get more surfers used to paying for porn, and used to being happy they did, we'll just keep losing them to the various free porn alternatives.

Unfortunatley, there are plenty of webmasters who think if they can't make $30-$50 on pay per signup, then the program isn't worth promoting. So I'm also wondering what sponsors will have to do in order to get a lot more surfers to sign up for low-priced long-term memberships without losing their affiliate webmasters.

Not that there's any real correlation, but the New York Times is dropping its subscription model at midnight today after a 2-year test. It was generating about $10 million a year in revenue with monthly and annual subscriptions, but they say they believe they can do much better by eliminating the $49.95/year or $7.95/month fees.

Okay, enough out of me for now. Anyone else think there's room for some major changes in how we market to porn surfers, including changes in how memberships are priced?





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Old 2007-09-18, 09:30 AM   #2
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Actually I'm wondering when sponsors will start retooling their affiliate programs to take the USA and worldwide economies into more account. I'm not sure that $30/month (and more) for a monthly membership is going to continue to work as well as some other pricing options.

And I'm not talking about more free trials or short-term paid trials, which are meaningless if the monthly prices stay at the same levels. I'm referring to having much lower monthly memberships for full-blown paysites that aren't just filled with upsells to 'full memberships' and links to other paysites. I mean memberships that you're glad you paid for, especially at the price you paid, and that you're not rushing to cancel right after you join.

We all know there's way too much free porn out there. I think what's needed are ways to convince a lot more of the current free porn surfers to spend some (small amount of) money in order to get access to much better porn. If we don't get more surfers used to paying for porn, and used to being happy they did, we'll just keep losing them to the various free porn alternatives.

Unfortunatley, there are plenty of webmasters who think if they can't make $30-$50 on pay per signup, then the program isn't worth promoting. So I'm also wondering what sponsors will have to do in order to get a lot more surfers to sign up for low-priced long-term memberships without losing their affiliate webmasters.

Not that there's any real correlation, but the New York Times is dropping its subscription model at midnight today after a 2-year test. It was generating about $10 million a year in revenue with monthly and annual subscriptions, but they say they believe they can do much better by eliminating the $49.95/year or $7.95/month fees.

Okay, enough out of me for now. Anyone else think there's room for some major changes in how we market to porn surfers, including changes in how memberships are priced?





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Simon you are so correct on this, for a long time i have thought that paysites charge too much, one of the things we did this week was offer the affiliate the choice of pricing with a 16.95, 24.95 or 29.95 tour. I'll keep everyone posted on how well the lower priced one retain.

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Old 2007-09-18, 10:06 AM   #3
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those filters jim mentioned are, it's just plain to hard anymore and most will find out and quit, the days of the newbie coming in this biz with no money is gone....

what simon said about pricing and from seeing what sells on my LL are pay sites that have a 24.95 or 29.95 or 34.95 membership price...

the 39.95 pay sites I can say my traffic will NOT pay that for a membership, I won't even build for a program who asks that much for a membership and wont even add anymore links on my LL...

also I've noticed lately that sponsors who wont show the membership price on there join page and want you to put your info into to see it, are just not plain selling....and we know who those well known programs are, and to tell you the truth there on my to pull there links list...and I dont care how exclusive there reality sites are

well I see now that one program shows how much a membership is - 39.95
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