This is just crazy

asmo · 2007-09-20, 02:02 AM

I like how he asked the Skull & Bones question

SheepGuy · 2007-09-20, 03:22 AM

So the guy was a prankster, so he wanted to be famous, so it was an attention getting stunt, so what?

He didn't use violence, just words, and they were met with violence and a night in jail. Is that acceptable? What level of force is acceptable to preserve order? What level of force is acceptable to preserve free speech?

DangerDave · 2007-09-20, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SheepGuy

So the guy was a prankster, so he wanted to be famous, so it was an attention getting stunt, so what?

He didn't use violence, just words, and they were met with violence and a night in jail. Is that acceptable? What level of force is acceptable to preserve order? What level of force is acceptable to preserve free speech?

Exactly... the violence used was simply unjustified.. Turn the mic off and walk away and the "prankster" has no attention... and it's all over..

If that sort of violent response is condoned or promoted it points to a very sad state of affairs..

DD

jennym · 2007-09-20, 08:12 AM

So when he is disruptive and asked to leave and doesn't do so, he should be ignored?? Oh please

He certainly did become "violent" first. Cops were attempting to remove him after he refused to leave when told. He began flailing his arms, swinging at cops, and trying to physically remove himself from their grasp while yelling "get away from me". The cops should not HAVE to fight some idiot because he can't follow simple directions. He was warned, continued to struggle, then was tazered. Not a huge deal, he is FINE!!! People get tazered voluntarily all the time, and cops are made to do it as part of training. It hurts for a second, but then you get over it.

Had they ignored him and pissed him off and he shot 50 people everyone would complain then too.
"They saw he was loony...why not try to escort him out"
"They saw he was combative...why not tazer him and get the situation under control"
< insert a million more similar complaints here >

The guy got the attention he wanted (which he wouldn't have gotten had he been ignored) he got a little shock....is completely fine, big deal.

spacemanspiff · 2007-09-20, 08:45 AM

So the cops go from billy clubs and guns to tasers, and they're "out of control". I say when they come out with the "pretty please do what we say" gun, we stage a revolution.

It is a very sad state of affairs indeed. I long for the good old days when a cop would smack you in the head because you didn't answer fast enough, or beat you half to death because you were black and looked at a white woman. Those boys had some control. Not like these hot heads we have today.

Just ask the black man that served his country in WW2, came home and hopped on a bus and was told that he had to sit in the back. He said "no way. I just spent 2 years on the front lines and I'm not sitting on the back of the bus." So 4 cops cams along, beat the shit out of him and poked out his eyes. Good thing they didn't have a taser or things would have gotten really ugly.

Bluey · 2007-09-20, 08:51 AM

Torn and Jennym make a few good points.

B.

jetpat · 2007-09-20, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluey

Torn and Jennym make a few good points.

B.

Yes, they do.

And I won't even tase them for not complying to my wishes

Bluey · 2007-09-20, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetpat

Yes, they do.

And I won't even tase them for not complying to my wishes

Good on you mate

B.

2007-09-20, 03:22 AM	#2
SheepGuy It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,527	So the guy was a prankster, so he wanted to be famous, so it was an attention getting stunt, so what? He didn't use violence, just words, and they were met with violence and a night in jail. Is that acceptable? What level of force is acceptable to preserve order? What level of force is acceptable to preserve free speech? __________________ If the Environment was a bank, they would have saved it by now.

2007-09-20, 08:45 AM	#5
spacemanspiff Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Looz-e-anna Posts: 1,015	So the cops go from billy clubs and guns to tasers, and they're "out of control". I say when they come out with the "pretty please do what we say" gun, we stage a revolution. It is a very sad state of affairs indeed. I long for the good old days when a cop would smack you in the head because you didn't answer fast enough, or beat you half to death because you were black and looked at a white woman. Those boys had some control. Not like these hot heads we have today. Just ask the black man that served his country in WW2, came home and hopped on a bus and was told that he had to sit in the back. He said "no way. I just spent 2 years on the front lines and I'm not sitting on the back of the bus." So 4 cops cams along, beat the shit out of him and poked out his eyes. Good thing they didn't have a taser or things would have gotten really ugly. __________________ Submit your free sites to Free Sex Pics

2007-09-20, 08:51 AM	#6
Bluey A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Australia. Posts: 53	Torn and Jennym make a few good points. B. __________________ Be nice to people on your way up because you meet them on your way down.

2007-09-20, 02:02 AM	#1
asmo Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 9	I like how he asked the Skull & Bones question

2007-09-20, 08:12 AM	#4
jennym You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: the south Posts: 529	So when he is disruptive and asked to leave and doesn't do so, he should be ignored?? Oh please He certainly did become "violent" first. Cops were attempting to remove him after he refused to leave when told. He began flailing his arms, swinging at cops, and trying to physically remove himself from their grasp while yelling "get away from me". The cops should not HAVE to fight some idiot because he can't follow simple directions. He was warned, continued to struggle, then was tazered. Not a huge deal, he is FINE!!! People get tazered voluntarily all the time, and cops are made to do it as part of training. It hurts for a second, but then you get over it. Had they ignored him and pissed him off and he shot 50 people everyone would complain then too. "They saw he was loony...why not try to escort him out" "They saw he was combative...why not tazer him and get the situation under control" < insert a million more similar complaints here > The guy got the attention he wanted (which he wouldn't have gotten had he been ignored) he got a little shock....is completely fine, big deal.