Free Site and TGP Submissions and Recips

[NY Jester]

Hey all, this is kind of a newB question. But with all the Link Lists out there and each one usually asking for category recips, and this also goes for TGP submits as well - how does one keep it all together? Any time saving techniques anyone uses? I appreciate any info.

J-

[koolkat]

Originally Posted by NY Jester

Hey all, this is kind of a newB question. But with all the Link Lists out there and each one usually asking for category recips, and this also goes for TGP submits as well - how does one keep it all together? Any time saving techniques anyone uses? I appreciate any info.

J-

Well... with a warning page there is probably not going to be much of a design change from one site to the next (other than site title, sponsor, and maybe background color). You can make a default template for each category, and then just change the few things that need to be changed.
I did away with categorized recips for that reason. I would rather have everybody come through the main page since they can see all the categories on my site and maybe catch there eye with another category besides the one they originally came for.

[NY Jester]

I saw that Kat ..that you dont ask for cat. recips anymore, but what about for submitting, how does one keep it all straight? Just access each submit page for the recips to each category each time they create a free site? Just looking to save some time and be more organized with it.

[Preacher]

Most free-site builders use pre-built recip tables. It's kinda of a pain in the ass and you do have to update them, but I don't really see a better way.

So say I wanted to build an ebony site for example, I open my html page with all my recip tables on it and go down the the one marked ebony. It has 12-16 existing recips that I use for all my ebony sites. I copy and paste that table onto the new freesite and tweak as needed. IMO, there will be needed tweaks, especially if some of the linklists have multiple cats for the same genre, like oral/oral movies.

I hope that answers your question.

[NY Jester]

Thats what Im getting to Preacher..I should create recip tables for all my niches that I promote based on my Free Site Submission List..so If I for argument sake, I promote this month Teens, Interracial, Tranny and Hardcore..I would then go to all the Link Sites I submit to and create recip tables based on those niches and just plug them in accordingly?

Thanks for the insite, sometimes ya just need anothers opinion.

J-

[Preacher]

[quote=NY Jester;373896]...I should create recip tables for all my niches that I promote based on my Free Site Submission List..so If I for argument sake, I promote this month Teens, Interracial, Tranny and Hardcore..I would then go to all the Link Sites I submit to and create recip tables based on those niches and just plug them in accordingly?QUOTE]

Yes, and then save those individual tables (Teens, Interracial, Tranny and Hardcore) to a single page for easy access for your next freesite build of one of those categories.

[Maj. Stress]

I have mine all pre made and stuck in a folder with a global alias. I mirror my sites 3 times so that is a total of 4 sites. So for office sex sites I have 4 text files numbered office2.txt, office3.txt etc. Then when I mirror the site all I have to do is change the number in the virtual include.

For submitting I have an html page that has a link to the webmaster pages for each site on those recip tables that opens a new window. For sites that don't have a submit page but want submits via email I just change the url to "mail to" and the email address. Makes life simple for me.

If for some reason I am not going to submit to a site anymore, I just make a new set of tables and number them different. (office1-2.txt, office1-3.txt, etc.)

[SheepGuy]

My setup is exactly like Major's and it works well once it's set up. Make some usually minor adjustments to the table, then go to the list of submit pages. It saves tons of time.

[NY Jester]

Thanks for the input guys..it all helps for sure. What I did for my submissions was I created a local "homepage" for IE to open when I start it up. I have it broke down into important places that I get to everyday. like: Adult BBS, Stats, Fantasy Football ( I have five leagues) and what I did was create my submit links in clusters of 12 sites and have them each headed as Link List PartI, Part II, Part III, etc. I click on the links and open the submit pages, those that request an email to submit I just have their submit link as a mailto link and that helps me save time. I also have my TGP submit pages linked much like that but in clusters of 4 sites.

Like I said its nice to be able to bounce ideas off others.

J-

[JustRobert]

Something else you can consider.
I keep a spread sheet, excel, broken down by domains per worksheet, with all my freesites submitted on them. I check off who I have submitted too when I submit by date. I know when I submitted that site and to who at any time. This way in the future if I add some more LL, or find better ones, I can quickly mirror off and submit them (20mins) to the new ones. Works well when you are short on time because of other projects. A good freesite built a year ago will still sell today

Initially it takes a bit more time in the beginning but I believe the long term benefit makes it worthwhile.

[pussygato]

I think the the recip table lends itself well to a DB solution. Granted I have a programming background, but a very basic table structure would work just fine in this situation. Store your links list info in 1 table, and have a second table to store the recip code indexed by linklist/niche. Once ya have that stuff stored in your DB, a quick php snippet could be used to construct a basic html table for any linklists/niche. My setup is a bit more confusing because it is integrated into some other things, but I can paste some code if anyone was interested in that.

It seems that many are talking about mirroring old sites to submit to other LL's, won't that screw you as far as search engines go? I may be way off base here, but won't google eventually trash your listing if it finds several mirrors of the same site?

[NY Jester]

It seems that many are talking about mirroring old sites to submit to other LL's, won't that screw you as far as search engines go? I may be way off base here, but won't google eventually trash your listing if it finds several mirrors of the same site?

Thats my concern. I mean Im sure everyone submits to more than 12-16 LL's..how do you name the sites? or entrance pages to apease everyone?

[JustRobert]

Let me start by saying that I am in no way an SEO person. If you are and can seriously optimize a freesite properly than you will probably have different findings than I.

What I have noticed is that SE traffic for freesites picks up for awhile and then drops off.

I looked at a fs I subbed originally 05/06 and mirrored 11/07. SE traffic was long gone on the original but the mirrored now has a trickle from google not including the 3725 hits from LL and 1 sale. 20 mins to do it $35 return Wish I could that more often.

I looked at one that had 3 mirrors of the original clean version all subbed the same day in 05/07. 1 mirror has received the bulk (still getting a tiny trickle), another a couple handfulls and the third nothing. This is what I have noticed with others. Would that first one receive more SE if there were no mirrors? I do not know

This may be short sighted but so is my banker that owns the mortgage to my house

[SheepGuy]

Absolutely, JustRobert!
SE is definitely not everything, the bottom line is the checks you're cashing vs the time you spend working.

[pussygato]

Well I am no SE genius either, I just try and squeeze every last bit of traffic out of each site, but maybe I should be spending more time mirroring if it is a better return on time. Thats why I am on the newbie board I suppose .

I dunno what it means , and I am not sure what a trickle of traffic is, but a freesite I submitted 2/07 and didn't mirror gets 30 google hits a day like clockwork. I imagine the 3500 hits from mirroring would be more profitable until you became a SE guru, since SE hits would be less consistent. Which leads me to a question for those that mirror . Do you make a site and mirror/submit them all right away , or delay mirroring? (In other words is mirroring gonna get me banned from LL's?).

[papagmp]

I'm working on a database that builds LL tables
Once I’ve entered the link data, all I’ll have to do is make sure the LL hasn't changed, select filter options, and build the table.

It should be able to build a recip table based on the following:
1. LL’s to submit to. (you can have multiple lists)
2. Category to submit to
a. LL’s that do not require cats will load the default recip.
b. LL’s that require cats and no cat recip is loaded in the database will ask for an alternate cat or give you the option to load a new cat recip.
3. Select the number of columns and rows you desire in the LL table.
4. Export - outputs an html table(s) to insert in your FS(s).

I’ll be inserting default css tags in the table, td, and a=href areas so that when I paste the table into my index page, I can alter the look of the table, font, etc in the FS style sheet.

We’ve worked through all the technical details but we’ve been so busy with the updates to the affiliate area on GlassMannequin.com that this has hit the back burner.

Maybe I can get it done before the end of the year.

[JustRobert]

pussygato,
Totally understand about squeezing every little bit of traffic out of each site. As Sheepguy pointed out, it becomes a time/return issue for me. There are so many variables with SE that, for me, it is hit and miss no matter how much effort is put in. Some are winners and others are losers. You have to figure out what works best for you, IMO.

For the site that still gets 30 hits a day if you want to mirror it I would suggest grabbing the whole folder and dropping it a different domain. Layout and pictures are already there so just change out the text and title of site. Probably overkill, but this should really distance it enough as to not screw up the other ones hits. This way you can decide if mirroring is right for you. Good Luck

[bDok]

Originally Posted by papagmp

I'm working on a database that builds LL tables
Once I’ve entered the link data, all I’ll have to do is make sure the LL hasn't changed, select filter options, and build the table.

This is what I built myself. I also have other options I can run across the recips being built as well. it's very nice because if a site updates all their recips I just bring them up in my database and replace those ones. Everything can be dynamically generated. Then I have another script that goes through and places the tables into place I have in the template I make for the warning page. It took awhile to build, but now that I have it, it cuts down on time and more so as I get more and more recip categories in it.

Also, if I want to get new recips for a category I have a php page that generates links to all the Link List webmaster pages. So then I can grab a new category of recip tables.

Oh and at the time the script runs to place the recip tables into the warning page template it generates an html file that I open up for submitting for that table.