Why is this business harder these days?

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Bobc01

I doubt they even know to be honest, too much hype on SEO that everything tends to contradict it's self.

To be clear, I'm not accusing anyone in this thread of being an SE spammer. Though I certainly understand why people go to the dark side instead of dealing with all of this bullshit.

I'm just tired of these "I know something that you don't" posts. If you truly know something makes money, be smart, not arrogant, shut the fuck up and keep that secret to yourself. Telling someone that he/she is doing it the wrong way means fuck-all if you aren't willing to clarify and instruct. If you want to come off as some type of authority, put your cards on the table or get back in your gimp box. That's all I'm really trying to say.

[Bobc01]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

To be clear, I'm not accusing anyone in this thread of being an SE spammer. Though I certainly understand why people go to the dark side instead of dealing with all of this bullshit.

I'm just tired of these "I know something that you don't" posts. If you truly know something makes money, be smart, not arrogant, shut the fuck up and keep that secret to yourself. Telling someone that he/she is doing it the wrong way means fuck-all if you aren't willing to clarify and instruct. If you want to come off as some type of authority, put your cards on the table or get back in your gimp box. That's all I'm really trying to say.

That's a fair point, although you tend to see alot of that on other forums.
It's pointless coming onto a more professional board like this and bragging you know something aswell as the traffic you get from it. Everyone will think you're some kind of cunt.

Come on here bragging you know something and explain it and you'll gain some respect.

[stuveltje]

its not only the "free porn"
if i have to believe some sponsors, showing all the "people who tried to sign up thru creditcard and got rejected" because their cc isnt right or whatever, then i fucking think what the hell i am doing here, i cant believe that what 60 people who try to buy a trial 55 are not right, thats bullshit, i keep saying (and yes i dont have proofe ofcourse but then i also dont mention names) that the sponsors themself have a big input of the sales the webmasters get.
and then its
Economy (small part)
and yep then the facted, what kind of recousers you use in this bizz to make your money, because yep there are good sponsors also and its not only free sites and linksites what makes you the money

[NSFWTrafficSale]

As a free porn webmaster i must say my industry has gotten SO SATURATED!! everyone and their mother has a free porn site and to make things worse 40% of our time is spent trying to catch all these new generation cheaters, we get cheated over 100k+ visitors a day from all these people trading traffic with our ratio scripts and cheating, it is ridiculous. We are constantly trying to invent new ways to convert our traffic into your programs since most users now are use to the generic banner sizes and placement which is also a problem for getting traffic to your program sites.

[the New Shemp]

Originally Posted by NSFWTrafficSale

As a free porn webmaster i must say my industry has gotten SO SATURATED!! everyone and their mother has a free porn site and to make things worse 40% of our time is spent trying to catch all these new generation cheaters, we get cheated over 100k+ visitors a day from all these people trading traffic with our ratio scripts and cheating, it is ridiculous. We are constantly trying to invent new ways to convert our traffic into your programs since most users now are use to the generic banner sizes and placement which is also a problem for getting traffic to your program sites.

if you "live by the script" you can also "die by the script"
if possible, cut down on the script usage and use hardlink exchanges with sites/webmasters that you can trust...

[Toby]

Originally Posted by the New Shemp

if you "live by the script" you can also "die by the script"
if possible, cut down on the script usage and use hardlink exchanges with sites/webmasters that you can trust...

Knowing who you can, and can't, trust is far easier said than done these days.

[the New Shemp]

Originally Posted by Toby

Knowing who you can, and can't, trust is far easier said than done these days.

and the "script" is the worst judge of character

[Toby]

Originally Posted by the New Shemp

and the "script" is the worst judge of character

No doubt, but scripts are also far more vigilante. I utilize both scripted and non-scripted trades. It's all a matter of how you use the tools at your disposal.

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by Toby

Knowing who you can, and can't, trust is far easier said than done these days.

Amen brother!

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Toby

Knowing who you can, and can't, trust is far easier said than done these days.

thats so true...

[matyko]

Originally Posted by Toby

Knowing who you can, and can't, trust is far easier said than done these days.

I will have to start trading in some days/weeks. What I've already learned it will be hard... Will be screwed dozen times... If this is a mess even for experienced webmasters, then what should a newbie like me say?