Why is this business harder these days?

Ramster · 2008-01-02, 08:48 AM

Too Much Free Porn?

Bullshit.

Ok, not totally bullshit but exaggerated. Most of the people here on Greenguy and Jim make their money by providing FREE PORN in the form of building free sites or submitting galleries and running tgps and link lists. Well that is free porn, and you all do that right? You guys all provide free porn to make money.

So Too Much Free Porn?
Yes you are correct but I think more on the form of so many more webmasters now to compete with. And not only webmasters but 1 webmaster running 10 sites now instead of 1. Look at Greenguy, he does not only run Link-O-Rama. Look at Kit, he does not only run PenisBot. More competition in the free porn biz.

Is it harder to make money now than it was 5 years ago? FOR SURE. But more web sites, more webmasters, smarter surfers definitely all contribute to this, not just free porn.

And for the record. I made more money last month than I have ever made in 1 month ever in this biz.

Useless · 2008-01-02, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramster

Look at Greenguy, he does not only run Link-O-Rama. Look at Kit, he does not only run PenisBot. More competition in the free porn biz.

Yes, exactly. Too many people publishing too much free porn. I doubt you would argue that you wouldn't see a sales increase if even half of the free shit was dumped tomorrow.

Ramster · 2008-01-02, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Yes, exactly. Too many people publishing too much free porn. I doubt you would argue that you wouldn't see a sales increase if even half of the free shit was dumped tomorrow.

Yes I totally agree. Paysite sales would SURELY go up and everyone would be happy if there was less free porn.

My only point was we all provide free porn samples to the masses in the hopes of up-selling them to the paysite. We all complain there is too much free porn yet we ALL provide more of it each and every day. Ironic really.

Useless · 2008-01-02, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramster

We all complain there is too much free porn yet we ALL provide more of it each and every day. Ironic really.

Actually, I don't have anywhere near enough pages of free porn out there. It's the rest of you that are the problem.

LD · 2008-01-02, 12:29 PM

I wonder too if a more open society works against us. Porn used to have a more forbidden quality. While it's not exactly prime time now, it's a little more mainstream than it was say 15 years ago, and as someone mentioned, so accessible. When it's more out in the open, I think people will perceive it as being worth less. Back in the 60's, a good vhs tape could easliy cost $100US, and that's before inflation.

Of course UL is right about too much free stuff out there. If it were up to me, all freesites would contain only softcore, with hardcore being available through paid memberships only. If something like that could happen (doubtful...the genie's out of the bottle now), I think we'd all be better off. Shame there isn't some society or organization that would work to fight this in the pron industry.

Ramster · 2008-01-02, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LusciousDelight

Of course UL is right about too much free stuff out there. If it were up to me, all freesites would contain only softcore, with hardcore being available through paid memberships only. If something like that could happen (doubtful...the genie's out of the bottle now), I think we'd all be better off. Shame there isn't some society or organization that would work to fight this in the pron industry.

Only problem with that is this society would be based out of the US (or some other country) and you'd always have people located outside of that society doing anything they wanted to. It's a good idea, just not feasible unless a company like VISA made it so by only processing for sites showing softcore keeping all the hardcore on the inside. Of course then the torrent sites would thrive even more. LOL

Lunatic · 2008-01-02, 03:47 PM

I agree that there is too much free porn.
But there are alot of sites now that offer very high quality, usually exclusive content, and lots of it, that just can't be gotten for free.
So like Useless Warrior said:

"The money is there, but you need to be more savvy to make it. You need to be able to convince the surfer that the grass is greener on the other side of the join page."

I think I'm going to start marketing the sites I promote in different ways to see if that helps since the sites that offer unique content seem to convert better sometimes, even with TGP's.

2008-01-02, 08:48 AM	#1
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,872	Too Much Free Porn? Bullshit. Ok, not totally bullshit but exaggerated. Most of the people here on Greenguy and Jim make their money by providing FREE PORN in the form of building free sites or submitting galleries and running tgps and link lists. Well that is free porn, and you all do that right? You guys all provide free porn to make money. So Too Much Free Porn? Yes you are correct but I think more on the form of so many more webmasters now to compete with. And not only webmasters but 1 webmaster running 10 sites now instead of 1. Look at Greenguy, he does not only run Link-O-Rama. Look at Kit, he does not only run PenisBot. More competition in the free porn biz. Is it harder to make money now than it was 5 years ago? FOR SURE. But more web sites, more webmasters, smarter surfers definitely all contribute to this, not just free porn. And for the record. I made more money last month than I have ever made in 1 month ever in this biz. __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2008-01-02, 12:29 PM	#5
LD wtfwjd? Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,103	I wonder too if a more open society works against us. Porn used to have a more forbidden quality. While it's not exactly prime time now, it's a little more mainstream than it was say 15 years ago, and as someone mentioned, so accessible. When it's more out in the open, I think people will perceive it as being worth less. Back in the 60's, a good vhs tape could easliy cost $100US, and that's before inflation. Of course UL is right about too much free stuff out there. If it were up to me, all freesites would contain only softcore, with hardcore being available through paid memberships only. If something like that could happen (doubtful...the genie's out of the bottle now), I think we'd all be better off. Shame there isn't some society or organization that would work to fight this in the pron industry. __________________ Artisteer Wordpress Theme Generator Create Custom Themes! My Little Network

2008-01-02, 03:47 PM	#7
Lunatic Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 200	I agree that there is too much free porn. But there are alot of sites now that offer very high quality, usually exclusive content, and lots of it, that just can't be gotten for free. So like Useless Warrior said: "The money is there, but you need to be more savvy to make it. You need to be able to convince the surfer that the grass is greener on the other side of the join page." I think I'm going to start marketing the sites I promote in different ways to see if that helps since the sites that offer unique content seem to convert better sometimes, even with TGP's. __________________