Why is this business harder these days?

[Lenny]

Traffic is the only currency that means anything in this biz, and it always has been.
The proliferation of free porn isn't making it harder to sell memberships, it's just making it harder to get and keep traffic.
Sure there's more free stuff out there than there was in 2000, but the quality of membership sites today compared to then is ridiculous. People get alot more for less money than they did in 2000.

The reason it's harder for joe blow to get into this biz and make money is because there's hardly any free traffic left.
In 2000 and before that, you could just trade content for traffic. You give away free content on a page, and lots of people were willing to send traffic to that page.
Now everyone has content, the sponsors own their own content and go directly to the traffic source instead of dealing with a middle man.

Again, traffic is the only currency that means anything in this business. People with lots of traffic don't think this business is hard. People who are using 8 year old methods of trying to obtain traffic are the ones who think this business is hard.

[LD]

Originally Posted by Lenny

People who are using 8 year old methods of trying to obtain traffic are the ones who think this business is hard.

So....how do we get traffic now?

[ronnie]

Originally Posted by LusciousDelight

So....how do we get traffic now?

Better content.

[Ramster]

Originally Posted by Lenny

Traffic is the only currency that means anything in this biz, and it always has been.
The proliferation of free porn isn't making it harder to sell memberships, it's just making it harder to get and keep traffic.
Sure there's more free stuff out there than there was in 2000, but the quality of membership sites today compared to then is ridiculous. People get alot more for less money than they did in 2000.

The reason it's harder for joe blow to get into this biz and make money is because there's hardly any free traffic left.
In 2000 and before that, you could just trade content for traffic. You give away free content on a page, and lots of people were willing to send traffic to that page.
Now everyone has content, the sponsors own their own content and go directly to the traffic source instead of dealing with a middle man.

Again, traffic is the only currency that means anything in this business. People with lots of traffic don't think this business is hard. People who are using 8 year old methods of trying to obtain traffic are the ones who think this business is hard.

Very good post

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Lenny

Again, traffic is the only currency that means anything in this business. People with lots of traffic don't think this business is hard. People who are using 8 year old methods of trying to obtain traffic are the ones who think this business is hard.

That's exactly why I'm going to start SE spamming.

I'm really beginning to build a sort of 'fuck you' attitude towards people who want to tell others that they aren't doing it the right way, but refuse to offer any real advice. Smug, arrogant douche bags.

[Bobc01]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

That's exactly why I'm going to start SE spamming.

I'm really beginning to build a sort of 'fuck you' attitude towards people who want to tell others that they aren't doing it the right way, but refuse to offer any real advice. Smug, arrogant douche bags.

I doubt they even know to be honest, too much hype on SEO that everything tends to contradict it's self.

I just try out different things of my own and stick with what i know works.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Bobc01

I doubt they even know to be honest, too much hype on SEO that everything tends to contradict it's self.

To be clear, I'm not accusing anyone in this thread of being an SE spammer. Though I certainly understand why people go to the dark side instead of dealing with all of this bullshit.

I'm just tired of these "I know something that you don't" posts. If you truly know something makes money, be smart, not arrogant, shut the fuck up and keep that secret to yourself. Telling someone that he/she is doing it the wrong way means fuck-all if you aren't willing to clarify and instruct. If you want to come off as some type of authority, put your cards on the table or get back in your gimp box. That's all I'm really trying to say.

[Bobc01]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

To be clear, I'm not accusing anyone in this thread of being an SE spammer. Though I certainly understand why people go to the dark side instead of dealing with all of this bullshit.

I'm just tired of these "I know something that you don't" posts. If you truly know something makes money, be smart, not arrogant, shut the fuck up and keep that secret to yourself. Telling someone that he/she is doing it the wrong way means fuck-all if you aren't willing to clarify and instruct. If you want to come off as some type of authority, put your cards on the table or get back in your gimp box. That's all I'm really trying to say.

That's a fair point, although you tend to see alot of that on other forums.
It's pointless coming onto a more professional board like this and bragging you know something aswell as the traffic you get from it. Everyone will think you're some kind of cunt.

Come on here bragging you know something and explain it and you'll gain some respect.