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2008-03-30, 11:29 AM | #101 | |
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2008-03-30, 12:10 PM | #102 | |
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First of all...as a link list owner I wouldnt mind listing such free sites but as a free site builder I'd never build one.
Most posted arguments pro new free site formula are just bullshit 1) they still wont be updated, and still will be mirrored by those who submit to more than 40 (or whatever number) link lists 2) it wont be any easier for submiters, why should it? From what I'm seeing more and more free site submiters are using recip table generarots anyway, and those who build by hand (like me) most likely dont give a rats ass if they need to copy all recips onto one page or three. I noticed many submitters are just changing headers, autogenerating recip tables and submiting - no wonders search engines treat these sites (especially code of the recips which are always in the same order and place) as spam, but I've checked my stats and... I have different domain for most niches I submit; so far I have 8-12 free sites (submited over two years) on each domain and each domain got 50-650 se hits in march. Some will say thats not much but multiple it by 12 months and 20+ domains and you will get a decent number - definately worth an effort to put some heart in those free sites. But I also see huge potential benefit Quote:
Now that should help getting better rank in se for both -reducing outgoing links on the free site, -gaining some decent link backs for LL owner and finally... making submiters life much easier. Actually thats the idea I've been working on since a while - I've re-written all my scripts and I'll be allowing such recips real soon. Last edited by Mateusz; 2008-03-30 at 12:13 PM.. |
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2008-03-30, 12:35 PM | #103 |
No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz
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There's a few sites around that allow that now, porn-xxx-porn.com is one I submit to, has good traffic too.
I like that model, if you can keep track of the non-recipricol recips that's great, hope your script works out. One thing to consider, some people have just an FPA or a pile of crap on their index though, would they get the same treatment as someone with an actual decent site?
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2008-03-30, 12:37 PM | #104 |
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Yeah I've seen the examples. It still looks like change for the sake of changing to me.
People are now and have always been bitching about how limited they are with their designs, that all their sites look the same etc. I for one fail to see how having to cram more stuff on 1 page will give anyone more design options... if anything you'll have less space to move stuff around. If one doesn't have imagination now, it's hardly likely they'll gain anything by the new format either. Who said not to arrange all the recips in a single column with the old format? I've done it, others have done it... it was perfectly acceptable before as well. I just don't know... It doesn't look good to me, not from a submitters' pov and not from a LL owner's one either. I mean... look: UW, since you're playing "devil's advocate" (I know, I know, you really belive in this). But you have 2 LLs, right? Do you think they'd both make the 40 cut? Because I'm tellin ya, all the people that you actually want submitting to you are now submitting to 60 or maybe 80 LLs, and they're not gonna mirror anymore if with the new rules. They're just gonna drop the "dead weight" and the "reciprocical" submits. So are you willing to pull out your gun and pull the trigger on whichever one of your LLs doesn't make it? Am I the only one seeing A LOT of LLs going under with this? And, ironically, I'm seeing that Greenie and MML and the other top dogs that don't have to worry about it are the ones fighting to keep them alive, while their owners are throwing celebratory designs around the board! It's about time someone sums this up, and since kit dropped the bomb and left leaving us to fight amongst ourselves, I'm voting UW - cuz he said he could shut down our points but he just doesn't wanna argue with friends. Well I don't think anyone will consider it arguing. We just need to draw a line and check out the pros and the cons and see if the gain is worth the trouble, cuz there's something stinky here and I don't think it's just because Mateusz's feet smell BTW, I REALLY like Mateusz's idea of placing 1 link on the root of the domain and be done with it!
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The rest of the freesite as UW stated can be business as usual. Or it can even be changed to a 2, 3, 4 or however many pages Greenie and the rest of the top dogs want just as long as the warning page stays. |
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2008-03-30, 01:00 PM | #106 | |
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So, instead of having 20 recips on a warning page we are going to allow up to 40? Well if we do that why not up to 80 and have two columns? Is this what it comes down to now? Just the number of recips on the warning page? |
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2008-03-30, 01:06 PM | #107 | |
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When it comes to FPA on index.. well... to be honest didn't think of it yet but I guess everyone who takes the time to build quality free sites and not just copy same template without any keywords will take a minute to at least put some links on index so the se can grab them. Most likely it wont be a problem for me. By the time I'll be finally implementing new scripts I'll be switching to partner only anyway and I'll definately cut those crappy submits I'm currently getting - generated with chameleon submitter where I'm groupped with sites that all belong to one owner and/or his bathroom gang |
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2008-03-30, 02:31 PM | #108 | ||
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One thing to keep in mind is that if you were using category recips on a free site and submitting it to 15-20 link lists, you are already accustomed to having 30-40 outgoing links on your index, not including ad links. My best guess right now is that if any change does happen, there will be two types of link lists. Ones who only accept the current model and ones that will accept both. Those link list owners who appear to be open to the idea of the modified index also seem to like the idea of having a more favorable balance between content and advertising rather than a 3 links out rule. In other words, as long as the advertising doesn't over-power or conceal the content, there wouldn't be a specified restriction as to the number of ads. Quote:
If anyone has any suggestions, please PM me or email me - webmaster AT maladaptedmedia.com |
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2008-03-30, 04:56 PM | #109 |
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Thats like selling anything else - there are customers that are willing to pay big cash to get their needs fullfiled but they sure wont spent a penny if they are forced to buy stuff they don't want. Anyway.. I think 3ads / 12 pics is good ratio and we dont really need more. Definately we shouldnt give out more free content either but I think the content should be the highest quality possible - just the way its in the members area. Not sure how many LLs have this rule but it exists for sure (even if its unofficial one) - pics should be around 100kb. With the all broadband connections we've got today that's just insane - I'd be more than happy to serve 1024x768 or even bigger photos but due to 100kb rule I simply cant Last edited by Mateusz; 2008-03-30 at 07:06 PM.. |
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2008-03-30, 08:48 PM | #111 |
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So as to not hijack CrazySy's thread I'm going to ask over here.. what does everyone think of THIS SITE I've taken some of the ideas brought up here and tried to keep it within the basic link list rules... would anyone list it?
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2008-03-30, 09:31 PM | #112 |
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2008-03-30, 09:42 PM | #113 | |
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2008-03-30, 10:58 PM | #114 | |
You can now put whatever you want in this space :)
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For me personally I'm leaning towards accepting anything that looks decent, has something to offer, and you're not trying to fuck the surfer. Seeing as I probably won't make most people's top 40 it doesn't matter much anyway.
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2008-03-30, 11:35 PM | #115 |
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I like the index to gallery page links...looks good Floyd.
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2008-03-31, 02:18 AM | #117 |
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I would if my list was on there and most of the others I know would accept this. I really do not expect the bigger, trusted and succesful lists to do so, though I could be wrong like many other things. |
2008-03-31, 07:47 AM | #118 |
Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer?
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Please who agrees to accept free site version 1.5 (new format) spam your LLs here: http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...676#post395676 Sample http://www.hornyfellow.com/free/hot-blonde-babe/ Thanks |
2008-03-31, 09:52 AM | #119 | ||
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I like the idea of making some changes, but I'm not going to just throw out all the old rules overnight. There's still lots of people who should have input into any changes that haven't posted their thoughts here. my 2cents |
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2008-03-31, 10:14 AM | #120 |
Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer?
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Old format will work as before
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2008-03-31, 10:36 AM | #121 | ||
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The reasons for this new design have already been slammed by many here, and all of the current rules are there for a reason. From a regular freesite builder's perspective I'm excited about the possibility of more freedom, but I'm also very concerned. My sales from the freesites I build are gradually increasing, slowly but surely. How will a new format affect those sales? Maybe freesites have evolved to a good level for creating sales already, and maybe any changes will see a serious sales drop. Also, Kit hasn't been back to state how flexible, (or not), he's going to be with his proposed changes, so it's difficult to know how to react. A split between link list owners over this issue will be a huge inconvenience for freesite builders. Build two versions of the same site, or drop a load of excellent free traffic? Quote:
Until the driving forces in link lists decide what's happening there aren't any new rules. Greenguy has already shot down just about everything that has been proposed, and without more input nothing will change. |
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2008-03-31, 10:45 AM | #122 | |
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2008-03-31, 10:52 AM | #123 | |
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2008-03-31, 12:33 PM | #125 | |
You can now put whatever you want in this space :)
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1. How do the proposed changes make it more friendly to Google? 2. Doesn't the fact the the surfer must click three times to find the porn increase the webmaster's chance of a sale? Inquiring minds want to know! Quote:
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