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Old 2008-04-03, 02:20 PM   #1
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v1.5 can't solve all problems I mentioned in my latest postings. This is why it v1.5, not v2.0.

v 1.5 can solve following problems:

1) Serious growth of FS usability.

2) Potential to decrease mirrors is link site owners will clearly state: there is no limits for recips number. I heard, many submitters don't use more than 15 recips per one FS.
There is no big difference with classic FS , but on the main page you have much more usefull content and relatively big amount or recips will not look like link farm.
If you place 40 recips on the classic FS warning page and add only one link leading to content, it's a joke for the surfer and he know, it called "link farm".
If you place 40 recips on the main page, where you have galleries, banners and their descriptions, you can make them more usable.

3) v1.5 have good potential to be v2.0
Lets suppose, webmaster will add another set of galleries to the currently listed v1.5 site and update his site info in the link site listings?
Yes, it looks like updated gallery blog, but it directly lead us to the small portfolio of well managed and frequently updated free sites.
Submiters lost reason to generate new sites every day, they find the reason to update their current sites and focus on their quality.
Google find the reason to classify these updated sites as good site with some incoming links dynamics.
Such site after 10 updates will contain at least 12 galleries, depending of number galleries in each update (12 for +1 gallery/update, 22 for +2 gallery/update, 32 for +3 gallery/update).
The gallery blog (glog) is a good format to solve all problems I mentioned before, but nobody ready techically at this time to try this format except blog directories. They ise it and they gain traffic and SE positions.
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Old 2008-04-03, 02:38 PM   #2
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3) v1.5 have good potential to be v2.0
Lets suppose, webmaster will add another set of galleries to the currently listed v1.5 site and update his site info in the link site listings?
Yes, it looks like updated gallery blog, but it directly lead us to the small portfolio of well managed and frequently updated free sites.
Submiters lost reason to generate new sites every day, they find the reason to update their current sites and focus on their quality.
Google find the reason to classify these updated sites as good site with some incoming links dynamics.
Such site after 10 updates will contain at least 12 galleries, depending of number galleries in each update (12 for +1 gallery/update, 22 for +2 gallery/update, 32 for +3 gallery/update).
The gallery blog (glog) is a good format to solve all problems I mentioned before, but nobody ready techically at this time to try this format except blog directories. They ise it and they gain traffic and SE positions.
So basicly you want to transform free sites into tgps?
Despite it makes no sense to me.. how would you list to that kind of sites?
Many webmasters have troubles to write description fitting two galleries... you think they will be able to write good description matching 10 or 15? (whats more those galleries would not exist at the time of submitting)

I guess after a while you will have a bunch of links with totally misleading descriptions... and since you care that much about surfers I think its not what you would like to achive..
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Old 2008-04-03, 06:10 PM   #3
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So basicly you want to transform free sites into tgps?
Despite it makes no sense to me.. how would you list to that kind of sites?
One site - one link. Each update up the link to the updated status.

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Many webmasters have troubles to write description fitting two galleries... you think they will be able to write good description matching 10 or 15? (whats more those galleries would not exist at the time of submitting)
The link will always describe and lead to the latest update. When webmaster update his site in the listing, he can submit description update.
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Old 2008-04-03, 02:46 PM   #4
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I'm going to start this post by saying that I've figured out that Kit's v2.0 is a HUB

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v1.5 can't solve all problems I mentioned in my latest postings...
We know.

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...1) Serious growth of FS usability...
Meaning the surfer's experience is easier? Yeah, going from 3 clicks down to 2 clicks is a MASSIVE improvement on the surfing experience.

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...2) Potential to decrease mirrors is link site owners will clearly state: there is no limits for recips number. I heard, many submitters don't use more than 15 recips per one FS.
There is no big difference with classic FS , but on the main page you have much more usefull content and relatively big amount or recips will not look like link farm.
If you place 40 recips on the classic FS warning page and add only one link leading to content, it's a joke for the surfer and he know, it called "link farm".
If you place 40 recips on the main page, where you have galleries, banners and their descriptions, you can make them more usable...
1st off, you speak as if there's not links to other things on the warning page in the 1st place. Most have a link to the main page as well as a 2257 page, ad links, etc. Smart ones have a link to the root of the domain where they have some sort of HUB

2nd, you think that adding 1 more link (subtract link to main page, add 2 links to gallery pages) will take away the page's "link farm" status? One more link = no link farm?

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...3) v1.5 have good potential to be v2.0
Lets suppose, webmaster will add another set of galleries to the currently listed v1.5 site and update his site info in the link site listings?...
HUB

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...Yes, it looks like updated gallery blog, but it directly lead us to the small portfolio of well managed and frequently updated free sites...
So the submitter adds links to 2 new gallery pages each day? That's called a HUB. (actually, it's your own personal TGP, but that fits into the definition of a HUB)

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...Submiters lost reason to generate new sites every day, they find the reason to update their current sites and focus on their quality...
That'd be updating their HUB

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...Google find the reason to classify these updated sites as good site with some incoming links dynamics...
Smart webmasters update their HUB(s) every time they build something new - galleries, free sites, blogs, link farm, tgp's, link list, etc - all these things are linked off their HUB(s) As far as incoming links, most webmasters trade links with other HUBs - both their own & those of other webmasters.

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...Such site after 10 updates will contain at least 12 galleries, depending of number galleries in each update (12 for +1 gallery/update, 22 for +2 gallery/update, 32 for +3 gallery/update).
The gallery blog (glog) is a good format to solve all problems I mentioned before, but nobody ready techically at this time to try this format except blog directories. They ise it and they gain traffic and SE positions.
You have not solved anything. You have eliminated the standard Free Site & replaced it with the existing HUB practice that most smart webmasters already have.

Way to go! You're going to allow webmasters to submit to you their HUB(s)

PS - useful has 1 L, not 2 - you keep setting off my spell checker when I quote your posts
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