Who uses purchased content for FS?

[Star Man]

Every link list that actually matters accepts sponsor content. I think that link lists preferred purchased content back when most sponsors only gave out a handful of content from each set and everyone was showing the same stuff on their sites.

Most conversions come from your warning and main pages anyhow so buying content to bump up your gallery conversions wouldn't be worth it even if they did convert better in my opinion.Your better off just working on your sales text etc.

I'm surprised that some of that purchased content isn't downright banned by bigger lists! Surfers deserve better then that early 80's cheap bullshit and webmasters pushing that garbage should be ashamed of themselves.I mean,is a cheap bitch looking like she came out of a bad episode of threes company even porn at this point? I understand teasing the surfer but thats just saying FUCK YOU!

[Linkster]

I guess Ill step in since it was probably a comment I made that started the question

1. Some LLs - especially the larger ones - see 5-10 free sites every day using exactly the same sponsor content promoting the exact same sponsor - so they put a rule in to give them a reason to only accept 1 of those free sites
2. Im one of those that thinks you get better conversions on a free site if you do use bought content - of course some of the comments here make me think that people are buying $5 bargain sets instead of spending the money to get worthwhile sets - that match the niche you are submitting for
3. Stu is absolutely correct in that there have been sponsors in the past that have issued sets or given content away - and then decided a year later that they dont want their content out there - and have pulled it back and people have lost numerous listings because of it - latest case I can remember was a mod here - Cleo
4. Sponsor content that matches a reality site or something like Brazzers is great - unfortunately the conversions suck because of the widespread exposure in the TGP and Tube world - so why would a free site submitter even bother with pushing a site that converts 1:2000 or worse - seems to me that the best returns on a free site are still (and this is based off of free sites I submitted 6 and 7 years ago) the micro niche sites that convert in the 1:100 - 1:500 range

Seems to me if you are going to spend the time every day submitting and creating free sites (of course this doesnt matter to people that do the copy/paste routing with auto submitters) - why not get something out of it??

[DangerDave]

Originally Posted by Linkster

1. Some LLs - especially the larger ones - see 5-10 free sites every day using exactly the same sponsor content promoting the exact same sponsor - so they put a rule in to give them a reason to only accept 1 of those free sites
2. Im one of those that thinks you get better conversions on a free site if you do use bought content - of course some of the comments here make me think that people are buying $5 bargain sets instead of spending the money to get worthwhile sets - that match the niche you are submitting for
3. Stu is absolutely correct in that there have been sponsors in the past that have issued sets or given content away - and then decided a year later that they dont want their content out there - and have pulled it back and people have lost numerous listings because of it - latest case I can remember was a mod here - Cleo
4. Sponsor content that matches a reality site or something like Brazzers is great - unfortunately the conversions suck because of the widespread exposure in the TGP and Tube world - so why would a free site submitter even bother with pushing a site that converts 1:2000 or worse - seems to me that the best returns on a free site are still (and this is based off of free sites I submitted 6 and 7 years ago) the micro niche sites that convert in the 1:100 - 1:500 range

Seems to me if you are going to spend the time every day submitting and creating free sites (of course this doesnt matter to people that do the copy/paste routing with auto submitters) - why not get something out of it??

Amen brother!



DD

[RedCherry]

Although I do tend to build more TGP galleries then free sites lately, I use bought content about 98% of the time. Since I promote my AVS sites almost exclusively, I use the content I bought to build the AVS sites with.

Free sites I can't remember the last time I built one with sponsor content, it has been a long time. I always hope the content I have bought and use isn't saturated, but then again, I pay good money for alot of it and don't buy stuff at the buy 100 sets for $5 sites anymore, lol.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Linkster

1. Some LLs - especially the larger ones - see 5-10 free sites every day using exactly the same sponsor content promoting the exact same sponsor - so they put a rule in to give them a reason to only accept 1 of those free sites

Which ones?

[Linkster]

UW - usually topbucks,brazzers,nd and of course whatever the flavor of the day is for the team of submitters working out of Europe and So America

[horndog]

I've used both sponser and bought content. You would think unsaturated bought content would help with conversion if you picked the right content for the paysite your sending traffic to. For me though most of my sells from freesites have come from ones that I built using sponser content.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Linkster

UW - usually topbucks,brazzers,nd and of course whatever the flavor of the day is for the team of submitters working out of Europe and So America

No - I meant which large link lists have a rule against sponsor content?

I've been fortunate enough to hardly ever see the same sponsor content in my queue more than once or twice.

Originally Posted by horndog

I've used both sponser and bought content. You would think unsaturated bought content would help with conversion if you picked the right content for the paysite your sending traffic to.

It might, if it weren't for the fact that the content free site builders tend to buy is the low end stuff which seems more over-used than most sponsor content. Most sponsor content is at least quality. Plus, so many paysites have a certain twist to them, so finding appropriate and affordable content can be very difficult, unless you are promoting a more generic babes/lesbian site. Even then, if the content is making the surfer want to sign up, they'd probably expect to find much more of that particular babe in the members area.

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by Linkster

..why would a free site submitter even bother with pushing a site that converts 1:2000 or worse - seems to me that the best returns on a free site are still (and this is based off of free sites I submitted 6 and 7 years ago) the micro niche sites that convert in the 1:100 - 1:500 range...

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

It might, if it weren't for the fact that the content free site builders tend to buy is the low end stuff which seems more over-used than most sponsor content. Most sponsor content is at least quality. Plus, so many paysites have a certain twist to them, so finding appropriate and affordable content can be very difficult, unless you are promoting a more generic babes/lesbian site. Even then, if the content is making the surfer want to sign up, they'd probably expect to find much more of that particular babe in the members area.

I agree with what Useless posted above, especially if you are talking about micro-niches. You know how hard it is to find good cum eating midget content?

If I'm a surfer and I make it to the galleries, I want to see a sample of what's inside the site that is being advertised, including watermarks.

If the content is over-saturated then move on to another sponsor. If you have a members pass and cut your own vids then others shouldn't have the same content as you. If it's about too much of the same sponsor being submitted, well I can buy big tit content and then advertise for Brazzers with every freesite so the content isn't the problem.

BTW, I'm one of those 1:1200 - 1:2500 with freesite conversions. So if you submit and don't see 1:100 - 1:500 ratios that were mentioned above, don't worry because you are not alone.

[DelBoy]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

It might, if it weren't for the fact that the content free site builders tend to buy is the low end stuff which seems more over-used than most sponsor content. Most sponsor content is at least quality.

Some sponsors also buy low end stuff to give to affiliates. They will not pay extra for it either. They are more interested in the price than the quality. Affiliates need to be able to spot it.

[papagmp]

Originally Posted by DelBoy

Some sponsors also buy low end stuff to give to affiliates. They will not pay extra for it either. They are more interested in the price than the quality. Affiliates need to be able to spot it.

And when you do, change sponsors.

[DangerDave]

Originally Posted by Linkster

Some LLs - especially the larger ones - see 5-10 free sites every day using exactly the same sponsor content promoting the exact same sponsor

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I've been fortunate enough to hardly ever see the same sponsor content in my queue more than once or twice.

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Which ones?

Obviously not yours..

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

All of my best submitters (those with the best sites) use sponsor content. Those who use purchased content rank amongst my worst.

So your judgement, on 'your submitters' is an argument against the practice...

Do your submitters make dollar one? Being a "good submitter' is not a measure of profitability. In fact it could be an indicator on non-profitability as they cannot afford content.

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Don't worry about people who are out of touch with the current profit expectations of the free site.

You say "these people" are out of touch..

Who are these people and how do you know they are out of touch?

You posted that opinion before anyone had even posted in this thread.

DD

[Useless]

Originally Posted by DangerDave

You say "these people" are out of touch..

Who are these people and how do you know they are out of touch?

You posted that opinion before anyone had even posted in this thread.

DD

That's because I only know of ONE link list with rules which explicitly state that they don't accept sponsor content - though that's a lie and they do list free sites built with sponsor content - and that person is out of touch. Of course, I realize that my opinion here is of diminishing popularity since I no longer toe the party line.

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Star Man

I'm surprised that some of that purchased content isn't downright banned by bigger lists! Surfers deserve better then that early 80's cheap bullshit and webmasters pushing that garbage should be ashamed of themselves.I mean,is a cheap bitch looking like she came out of a bad episode of threes company even porn at this point? I understand teasing the surfer but thats just saying FUCK YOU!

So what do you use for content then? there is enough good quality content around but yeah you have to pay a price and if you do look good around on the net, you find even good quality content for a bargain, hell the prices now are not to compair with the prices for content years ago.....

[Star Man]

Originally Posted by stuveltje

So what do you use for content then? there is enough good quality content around but yeah you have to pay a price and if you do look good around on the net, you find even good quality content for a bargain, hell the prices now are not to compair with the prices for content years ago.....

I use whatever sponsor content I'm advertising for.I don't have the greatest sales writing or graphics skills but I try my best to let surfer know that he's at a site for (random example) cum fiesta from the time he enters to the time he leaves.If I just used my own cumshot content in the galleries,he would just be thinking about a girl getting a facial.That's no good.I want him to be thinking about a girl from CUM FIESTA getting a facial! If webmasters want to use quality purchased content,thats great and stuff but wouldn't sponsor content from the actual site your promoting be a better way to showcase your product? I'm no advertising guru or anything but using sponsor content just makes more sense.